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Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

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Acca Dacca
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by Acca Dacca »

sweepster70 wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 23:21
k979aaa wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 19:45
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 19:08
k979aaa wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 16:09
LouBarlow wrote:
30 Apr 2023, 06:20
k979aaa wrote:
29 Apr 2023, 17:36
The fight for pensions the nhs the right to vote and freedom and the Magna carta is lost on you pathetic!
Lol behave. You are being asked to work an hour later. Not sure that is comparable to the bloody Magna Carta.
My time is precious don't get paid the world to work how about you!
A later start in the morning gives me more time to impart my wisdom on forums like this. I can live with that.
For some that is the school run and later pick up time this whole job at one time was sold as just that are you now inferring that we should accommodate the likes of RM at there will and at drop of a penny? or two for the likes of your wisdom well you can shove it where the sun don't shine!
You can't do the school run at 9 and pick up at 3. The day's of going home after you're first delivery, taking the kids to school, then getting back to do the sorting before you're second delivery are long gone.
You can if you are part time

Many of the part timers in my place having taken the job for this very reason
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
LouBarlow
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by LouBarlow »

richietns wrote:
01 May 2023, 10:11
"Nobody is forced to do anything"..."and yes those finish times were imposed" :d'oh! your just saying anything.
Yes, you aren’t forced to remain employed by Royal Mail. You can choose to work elsewhere if the changes are unworkable for you, but good luck finding any other job with family friendly hours, particularly full time. The finish times were imposed - you don’t choose your hours in any job, so why would RM be any different? We either went with them or look elsewhere. Nobody left our place after they were brought in because, shock horror, this is still a good job with decent pay, and they made arrangements, as literally every other parent does in other employment.
Jen1
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by Jen1 »

I don’t know much about anything but I know that this deal is not suitable for me so sadly I’ll be voting no

Also I think it’s a mistake to abandon the am delivery period and leave the door open for our competitors to take advantage

Unfortunately after seeing Thompson in the parliamentary review I have lost all confidence in his ability to grow this company

I don’t think the plans of increasing our workload and expecting us to achieve it in the amount of time allocated is achievable

So regrettably I’ll be voting no

I’ve heard the rumours that Thompson will be getting the elbow soon but I’d rather it was before he’s inflicted anymore irreversible damage

I think Thomson’s resignation should be part of the deal
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

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Jen1 wrote:
01 May 2023, 14:22
I don’t know much about anything but I know that this deal is not suitable for me so sadly I’ll be voting no

Also I think it’s a mistake to abandon the am delivery period and leave the door open for our competitors to take advantage

Unfortunately after seeing Thompson in the parliamentary review I have lost all confidence in his ability to grow this company

I don’t think the plans of increasing our workload and expecting us to achieve it in the amount of time allocated is achievable

So regrettably I’ll be voting no

I’ve heard the rumours that Thompson will be getting the elbow soon but I’d rather it was before he’s inflicted anymore irreversible damage

I think Thomson’s resignation should be part of the deal
It will only be another corporate shill. I do hope it will not be as bad as they say but change is disruptive and some on here love it wonder why?
richietns
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

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LouBarlow wrote:
01 May 2023, 14:20
richietns wrote:
01 May 2023, 10:11
"Nobody is forced to do anything"..."and yes those finish times were imposed" :d'oh! your just saying anything.
Yes, you aren’t forced to remain employed by Royal Mail. You can choose to work elsewhere if the changes are unworkable for you, but good luck finding any other job with family friendly hours, particularly full time. The finish times were imposed - you don’t choose your hours in any job, so why would RM be any different? We either went with them or look elsewhere. Nobody left our place after they were brought in because, shock horror, this is still a good job with decent pay, and they made arrangements, as literally every other parent does in other employment.
I'm actually not to bothered my kids are older now it's the race to the bottom mentality or get another job that's just dumb.
LouBarlow
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by LouBarlow »

richietns wrote:
01 May 2023, 18:35
LouBarlow wrote:
01 May 2023, 14:20
richietns wrote:
01 May 2023, 10:11
"Nobody is forced to do anything"..."and yes those finish times were imposed" :d'oh! your just saying anything.
Yes, you aren’t forced to remain employed by Royal Mail. You can choose to work elsewhere if the changes are unworkable for you, but good luck finding any other job with family friendly hours, particularly full time. The finish times were imposed - you don’t choose your hours in any job, so why would RM be any different? We either went with them or look elsewhere. Nobody left our place after they were brought in because, shock horror, this is still a good job with decent pay, and they made arrangements, as literally every other parent does in other employment.
I'm actually not to bothered my kids are older now it's the race to the bottom mentality or get another job that's just dumb.
It isn’t even close to the bottom though. We will still be making a decent living if the deal is voted in. People just need to change their mentality to the job - go in, do your hours then come home and forget about the place. Pride in the job went out the window a long time ago for most, as the duties have become unachievable. Let management worry about all that. Go in make your money and go home. It is still a good job.
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by clashcityrocker »

LouBarlow wrote:
01 May 2023, 19:26
It is still a good job.
With good terms and conditions and a good pension.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
richietns
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by richietns »

I don't stress and do my hours it doesn't bother me like some but it is a race to the bottom that's accelerating year on year they've proved they can bring anything in or rip up an agreement at anytime putting your head in the sand doesn't change people's worrys.
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by miles_peters »

if I don't see an improvement in how RM are functioning or still deliberately/unable to cover deliveries before the vote i would find it very difficult to trust RM to stick to the agreement
iHateD2Ds
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by iHateD2Ds »

The Cuts will never stop!
With Mail Centres shutting and More indoor work being automated I reckon they are going to Cut Full Time Delivery Staff to the bone.
Max 1 hr prep and you are out on Delivery
Can you see yourself walking 7 hour deliveries?
Redundancies / buy downs will happen at a much reduced pay off.
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Re: Mark Baulch: 'Back this deal, regroup & prepare for future battles'

Post by SpacePhoenix »

iHateD2Ds wrote:
02 May 2023, 07:52
Redundancies / buy downs will happen at a much reduced pay off.
More likely they'd just wait for people to quit as it's cheaper that way