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Union's corrupt?

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SWIM
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Union's corrupt?

Post by SWIM »

someone on here a few months back said something along the lines of, all these talks where 'theatre/going through the motions' .. makes you wonder now.... 🤔
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barrychuckle
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Re: Union's corrupt?

Post by barrychuckle »

Not so sure about corrupt but f***ing useless springs to mind.
1617mel
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Re: Union's corrupt?

Post by 1617mel »

All deals will have a give and take agenda,some parts liked , some parts disliked, yes there probably was private conversations during the dispute, and probably a bit of skulduggery involved, it's all part of reaching the agreement, and as has been said arguably both sides were looking to comeout of the dispute with a reasonable outcome, and to protect each others assets, this is the fact and the way it is normally done.
Yes there will be grey areas in the agreement , and it will take goodwill on both sides to try and get a happy medium, we will see..........
DirtyHarry
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Post by DirtyHarry »

The CWU is a huge let-down.

Always has been since I've been in the job.

After every dispute, we go back to a job worse than it was before, with conditions made worse.

Yes, we get a few bob by way of a pay rise, the least any union worth its salt should achieve, but with us, always with strings attached.
rambo1
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Post by rambo1 »

Best thing Union did was get us a 5 day week.
pinstripe
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Post by pinstripe »

rambo1 wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2023, 06:58
Best thing Union did was get us a 5 day week.
At the cost of the second delivery, and the real start of the decline of our terms and conditions
hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

:Applause correct
The whole things been planned to reach this point
Jb1969
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Post by Jb1969 »

Privatisation was the start of the decline in our terms & conditions, it won’t stop.
It’s no longer a company that respects its employees or has a moral compass.
Our terms & conditions will continue to be eroded whilst the profits will eventually increase.
RM is no different to every company that has been sold off to foreign investors & I can think of few within the UK that have not.
The agreement is no more than a surrender document to keep the CWU within the workplace.
The delivery lads/lasses will do there 30/40 years walking 12-14 miles per day, your knees/hips will be shot & you will receive no thanks from your employer, it’s the scrap heap for you.
You have my sympathy.
Shockingly, it’s going to get a lot worse!
post6675
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Post by post6675 »

not corrupt but i believe they were out of their league. ametaurs vs people who know wht they are doing. RM played them like a fiddle
FilthyBloke
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Post by FilthyBloke »

post6675 wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2023, 11:29
not corrupt but i believe they were out of their league. ametaurs vs people who know wht they are doing. RM played them like a fiddle
RM just seemed to have a better legal team. The CWU seemed to focus on irrelevant victories the parliamentary grilling ST took and how greedy the shareholders were.

The conspiracist in me thinks RM planned this years ago. They waited until the covid profits stopped coming in, quickly made themselves richer, and then showed the world their empty bank balance and pleaded poverty.
Wullie10
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Post by Wullie10 »

They promised more than realistically they could ever deliver. Its always the same. There has to be a compromise or you dont have a job. And if you don't like the job then go and work at Tesco , be fair , thats your level. . If you fell for the we will fight until we have an amazing victory, we'll you are bit green I'm afraid.
DGH
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Post by DGH »

Not corrupt.

But both bombastic and very naive - which is an unusual and unhelpful combination.
They also appear utterly unable to learn from what should be bitter experience.
freespeech
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Post by freespeech »

DGH wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2023, 17:21
Not corrupt.

But both bombastic and very naive - which is an unusual and unhelpful combination.
They also appear utterly unable to learn from what should be bitter experience.
....but great at projecting vote yes on foreign buildings or holding up signs in Parliament.
sledger
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Post by sledger »

Jb1969 wrote: ↑
23 Apr 2023, 08:55
Privatisation was the start of the decline in our terms & conditions, it won’t stop.
It’s no longer a company that respects its employees or has a moral compass.
Our terms & conditions will continue to be eroded whilst the profits will eventually increase.
RM is no different to every company that has been sold off to foreign investors & I can think of few within the UK that have not.
The agreement is no more than a surrender document to keep the CWU within the workplace.
The delivery lads/lasses will do there 30/40 years walking 12-14 miles per day, your knees/hips will be shot & you will receive no thanks from your employer, it’s the scrap heap for you.
You have my sympathy.
Shockingly, it’s going to get a lot worse!
this post is 100% correct
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Union's corrupt?

Post by Hyrrokkin »

The CWU are incredibly incompetent that it resembles corruption
They have been for many years over many issues
They are pathetic