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chickenwittle
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Sick pay

Post by chickenwittle »

Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
derricksmyth
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Re: Sick pay

Post by derricksmyth »

chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
chickenwittle
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Re: Sick pay

Post by chickenwittle »

derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
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Re: Sick pay

Post by POSTMAN »

I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
derricksmyth
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Re: Sick pay

Post by derricksmyth »

chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
I have a feeling this isn't a foregone conclusion either way?
aiden01
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Re: Sick pay

Post by aiden01 »

chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
heraldmoth
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Re: Sick pay

Post by heraldmoth »

aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
Says the guy in indoor processing
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Re: Sick pay

Post by k979aaa »

He can vent off all he likes most of us Including me had enough take what is on offer comeback again and get what we are owed!
aiden01
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Re: Sick pay

Post by aiden01 »

heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:57
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
Says the guy in indoor processing
What is working in processing got to do with anything??
heraldmoth
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Re: Sick pay

Post by heraldmoth »

aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:58
heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:57
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
Says the guy in indoor processing
What is working in processing got to do with anything??
Well it’s not known for being the coal face, and definitely not being squeezed as much as delivery
aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Re: Sick pay

Post by aiden01 »

heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 15:21
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:58
heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:57
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
Says the guy in indoor processing
What is working in processing got to do with anything??
Well it’s not known for being the coal face, and definitely not being squeezed as much as delivery
And ile ask again what is that got to do with union trying to sell the deal as that was the topic we were discussing??
heraldmoth
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Re: Sick pay

Post by heraldmoth »

aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 18:40
heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 15:21
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:58
heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:57
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
Says the guy in indoor processing
What is working in processing got to do with anything??
Well it’s not known for being the coal face, and definitely not being squeezed as much as delivery
And ile ask again what is that got to do with union trying to sell the deal as that was the topic we were discussing??
You appear to be pushing the yes agenda so I’m pushing back by saying you have very little skin in the game
aiden01
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Re: Sick pay

Post by aiden01 »

heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 18:44
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 18:40
heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 15:21
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:58
heraldmoth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:57
aiden01 wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 13:52
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 09:01
derricksmyth wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:55
chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
How do you know we will vote to accept it?
I won’t but the silent majority that just want an end to all this will and the union will be all out on the hard sell for the next few weeks.
Your working quite hard on here to sell the no vote so surely the union are entitled to sell the yes vote.
Says the guy in indoor processing
What is working in processing got to do with anything??
Well it’s not known for being the coal face, and definitely not being squeezed as much as delivery
And ile ask again what is that got to do with union trying to sell the deal as that was the topic we were discussing??
You appear to be pushing the yes agenda so I’m pushing back by saying you have very little skin in the game
I am voting yes but not asking anyone else to people have their own minds to make up.an you still hav'nt given a answer bout me being in processing.
thefox
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Re: Sick pay

Post by thefox »

Pretty obvious aiden processing aint gonna suffer as much as those on delivery.
tractorboy2
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Re: Sick pay

Post by tractorboy2 »

chickenwittle wrote:
22 Apr 2023, 08:35
Complete sell out , not only have the union accepted ssp for first 2 days of 2nd absence, they have also allowed the review stages to be made more strict, which will result in more conduct cases and more dismissals.They prioritised keeping legacy payments for the old boys rather than looking out for the whole workforce . They’ve also not told us the full story on the 30 minute flexibility issue because it’s not committing to voluntary or mandatory on this issue until July when this deal will already be in anyway.Shambles of an agreement.
Only the 1st review stage is more strict , the other 2 are actually more lenient.