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its not a 10% pay rise

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Splappy_McSplap
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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Option B is worth £500 less than Option A.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 12:59
The overriding objectives in law with a privatized industry are financial returns to the share holder.

There is no obligation on any employer to give its employees a pay rise.
On that thinking no one in a private company would get a rise ever so we would be on 2009 wages can you imagine 10 years from now.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
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Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:36
Option B is worth £500 less than Option A.
In the long run yes personally I need the lump sum.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:40
Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
And they striked and got one.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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richietns wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:43
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:40
Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
And they striked and got one.
Nurses were guaranteed a pay rise after the then chancellor Rishi Sunak announced that the pay freeze would end in April 2022?
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 14:00
richietns wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:43
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:40
Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
And they striked and got one.
Nurses were guaranteed a pay rise after the then chancellor Rishi Sunak announced that the pay freeze would end in April 2022?
It wasn't enough so they striked and got a better deal.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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Junior doctors also staging a 4 day strike next week demanding a 35% pay rise. They currently consist of around half of all doctors.

Not paying the new recruits at Royal Mail on the same pay, terms and conditions for doing the same job as us could lead to them striking in future?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:40
Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
Feck Red you really are a martyr to your own cause. For a start we are fighting for are rights and pay, nobody elses public, private or otherwise. If thats your best argument go back to your monthly paid friends and tell them we dont want it.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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claystones wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 08:01
Royal mail say there a 10% pay rise for us its not the 2% was last years the pay rise on offer is 8% over the next 2 years which is pathetic
Pretty sure they said it was 10% over 3 yrs?
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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richietns wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:43
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:40
Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
And they striked and got one.
Striking NHS staff have a bit more leverage than us though. For a start their 'business' is funded by the taxpayer, not profits from the business working. Some would say thank god being as the NHS is quite possibly worse run and managed than royal mail.
Second their job id a bit more important than ours with no alternative unless you want to pay to go private. If we strike, people use a different courier.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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richietns wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:41
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:36
Option B is worth £500 less than Option A.
In the long run yes personally I need the lump sum.
If you need that lump sum it's your poor financial planning.

You'll need other lump sums in a short time if you accept any or either of these deals.
richietns
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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rambo1 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:39
richietns wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:43
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:40
Public sector pay such as nurses, NHS did not get a pay rise for years with a pay freeze
And they striked and got one.
Striking NHS staff have a bit more leverage than us though. For a start their 'business' is funded by the taxpayer, not profits from the business working. Some would say thank god being as the NHS is quite possibly worse run and managed than royal mail.
Second their job id a bit more important than ours with no alternative unless you want to pay to go private. If we strike, people use a different courier.
Yet it still stands if they didn't strike they wouldn't of got more.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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enskied wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:53
richietns wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:41
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:36
Option B is worth £500 less than Option A.
In the long run yes personally I need the lump sum.
If you need that lump sum it's your poor financial planning.

You'll need other lump sums in a short time if you accept any or either of these deals.
It just benafits me immediately its not that complex.
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Re: its not a 10% pay rise

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 12:59
The overriding objectives in law with a privatized industry are financial returns to the share holder.

There is no obligation on any employer to give its employees a pay rise.
There isn’t but as they will find out soon enough where will the staff come from that want to work for them? That reason alone the company is done for without even mentioning the rest of the mismanagement.