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Seniority

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Boracay70
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Seniority

Post by Boracay70 »

Morning all,
Just need clarification on my situation


Joined one DO as part time, after 14 months, transferred to a different DO as part time.

When it comes to be made full time, I understand that this is allocated on seniority.

Am I right saying that seniority will be based on date of joining RM as opposed the DO where I transferred to?

If that is the case, where can I find an official document suporting this?

My DOM is adamant that it is based on date of joining the DO where I transfered. Seem totally unfair

Appreciate your comment / replies
scoobydo79
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Re: Seniority

Post by scoobydo79 »

I’m sure seniority is taken with You when You move to another office.
postieblueshirt
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Re: Seniority

Post by postieblueshirt »

Yes from date you started I've worked in 3 places all combined 28 years so I jumped ahead of loads in my current office.That always goes down well..
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Re: Seniority

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

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All service including permanent and temporary since joining the business counts
for seniority purposes, whether full or part-time, with the exception of:
• Periods worked on a lower grade than the current one
• Periods worked on a casual contract
• Periods of career breaks
• Periods before a break of contract.
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Barnacle
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Re: Seniority

Post by Barnacle »

You definitely take seniority with you.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
celtic1967
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Re: Seniority

Post by celtic1967 »

Barnacle wrote:
04 Mar 2023, 10:34
You definitely take seniority with you.
Exactly as it should be, this DOM doesn't want to upset his favourites in his office no doubt.
burtons
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Re: Seniority

Post by burtons »

Definitely take it with you as I did,transfer from delivery to rdc,manager lying...
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Seniority

Post by Hyrrokkin »

Seniority is based on the EXACT DATE you are employed by RM
No matter where you work or are moved to - simple as that
DO manager is trying it on
Boracay70
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Re: Seniority

Post by Boracay70 »

Thanks everyone for reply

Just what I thought and needed confirmation
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Boltonian-White
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Re: Seniority

Post by Boltonian-White »

Seniority is based on your start date. If a question of seniority comes down to 2 or more individuals who have the same start date then seniority is based on interview date (this is rare but I've seen it happen)
denhamhoop
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Re: Seniority

Post by denhamhoop »

Boltonian-White wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 10:25
Seniority is based on your start date. If a question of seniority comes down to 2 or more individuals who have the same start date then seniority is based on interview date (this is rare but I've seen it happen)
Thought seniority between 2 individuals starting on the same date was given to the person who is older(Used to be based on who passed Training School first but as they were done away with so was this criteria)
yellowbelly
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Re: Seniority

Post by yellowbelly »

denhamhoop wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 19:27
Boltonian-White wrote:
07 Mar 2023, 10:25
Seniority is based on your start date. If a question of seniority comes down to 2 or more individuals who have the same start date then seniority is based on interview date (this is rare but I've seen it happen)
Thought seniority between 2 individuals starting on the same date was given to the person who is older(Used to be based on who passed Training School first but as they were done away with so was this criteria)
WFA para 13.9
Where several employees start on the same day, the following factors will determine the relative order: firstly, any periods of Post Office service on other grades, secondly, date of selection and, thirdly, date of birth.
Don't know how anyone would find out their 'date of selection' (whatever it means) from 30 years ago but yep it ultimately
goes to DOB - if it's still allowed - age discrimination and all that......