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Executive Action in offices

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CamPostie
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by CamPostie »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:53
he has put end of March on the posted brief, so about 4 weeks.
So not quite the 6 weeks advanced notice of shift requirements that I believe ST mentioned in proposals… although I think that was more to do with analised hours (intentional misspelling).
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by daveyeff »

CamPostie wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:00
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:53
he has put end of March on the posted brief, so about 4 weeks.
So not quite the 6 weeks advanced notice of shift requirements that I believe ST mentioned in proposals… although I think that was more to do with analised hours (intentional misspelling).
well they are certainly ''analising'' the start times. cos they are total s**t.
norris9
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by norris9 »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:58
can't see a deal being struck by tomorrow or Wednesday.
a deal.... don't you mean an agreement to stop executive action.

I don't see that either.... I'd put it at 3% chance that Royal Mail stop and reverse executive action.

We are going to be striking into 2024 with the way it's going.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by k979aaa »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:05
CamPostie wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:00
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:53
he has put end of March on the posted brief, so about 4 weeks.
So not quite the 6 weeks advanced notice of shift requirements that I believe ST mentioned in proposals… although I think that was more to do with analised hours (intentional misspelling).
well they are certainly ''analising'' the start times. cos they are total s**t.
Probing what can be fitted in and square pegs in round holes and all that guff!
aiden01
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by aiden01 »

norris9 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:18
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:58
can't see a deal being struck by tomorrow or Wednesday.
a deal.... don't you mean an agreement to stop executive action.

I don't see that either.... I'd put it at 3% chance that Royal Mail stop and reverse executive action.

We are going to be striking into 2024 with the way it's going.
Thought today was deadline for ea to stop.
Dexydog
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by Dexydog »

According to Ward last week.
We need an all out strike, its blatantly obvious the union is just being ignored
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by sixfoottwo »

norris9 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:18
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:58
can't see a deal being struck by tomorrow or Wednesday.
a deal.... don't you mean an agreement to stop executive action.

I don't see that either.... I'd put it at 3% chance that Royal Mail stop and reverse executive action.

We are going to be striking into 2024 with the way it's going.
I agree, just get the strike dates announced at the very least as they are ploughing ahead with EA, AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE :evil/mad and I don't mean 1 -2 day strikes either.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by rambo1 »

ted_e_bear wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 14:23
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 11:33
sixfoottwo wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 08:58
More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
our Dom/Com/bellend/arsehole, has put our new times up today. they are:-Monday..9.30-16.41
Tuesday..9.30-16.41
Wednesday..9.00-16.50
Thursday..9.00=16.50
Friday..9.30-16.41.
Saturday..8.30-15.41
so if the E/A is not pulled i can't see our rule 13 being denied with this type of change. where is the work/life balance in that? if we ARE denied carrying out local action, are they going to bring in the status quo? anyone who is ok with this type of change are easily pleased or s**t scared to do anything about it. no wonder we got a massive yes.
9 bastard 30 is that some sort of piss take presumably just about the whole office is kicking off.
At least now people can take kids to school instead of pick them up. Joking aside it's the worst of both worlds, rush hr traffic to and from work, not enough time to do owt before or after work. What time do the PT start at!
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by yellowbelly »

aiden01 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:23
norris9 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:18
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:58
can't see a deal being struck by tomorrow or Wednesday.
a deal.... don't you mean an agreement to stop executive action.

I don't see that either.... I'd put it at 3% chance that Royal Mail stop and reverse executive action.

We are going to be striking into 2024 with the way it's going.
Thought today was deadline for ea to stop.
Yep, that was my understanding from Dave's video the other day.

Days pass with members being screwed over in many offices.
sixfoottwo
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by sixfoottwo »

yellowbelly wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 18:07
aiden01 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:23
norris9 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 17:18
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:58
can't see a deal being struck by tomorrow or Wednesday.
a deal.... don't you mean an agreement to stop executive action.

I don't see that either.... I'd put it at 3% chance that Royal Mail stop and reverse executive action.

We are going to be striking into 2024 with the way it's going.
Thought today was deadline for ea to stop.
Yep, that was my understanding from Dave's video the other day.

Days pass with members being screwed over in many offices.
Yep that was the message I got from Ward in that vid too, more EA started today and the murmur from the screws was there is no union agreement regards this with the top brass thats why it's coming in today :crazy:
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by AlbertHerbertHawkins »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:32
roman wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:27
To daveyeff, what were your starting times before ?
Mon 6.50-14.50 Tues 6.30-14.30 Wed 6.20-15.00 Thurs 6.20-15.00 Fri 6.45-15.00 Sat 6.15-14.00.
Have they changed your attendance patterns as well? These times don't add up to a normal 37 hour week.
nelly21
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by nelly21 »

I currently work 4 nights Monday to Thursday 37 hours, been told I've got to do 5 nights 37 hours . Not happy losing my Friday night off. I work in the mail centre.
daveyeff
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by daveyeff »

AlbertHerbertHawkins wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 19:09
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:32
roman wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:27
To daveyeff, what were your starting times before ?
Mon 6.50-14.50 Tues 6.30-14.30 Wed 6.20-15.00 Thurs 6.20-15.00 Fri 6.45-15.00 Sat 6.15-14.00.
Have they changed your attendance patterns as well? These times don't add up to a normal 37 hour week.
we are on 9 day fortnights. over a month it will average out at 37 hours per week. one week you work 5 days, the next week 4 days and so on.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by SpacePhoenix »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 11:33
sixfoottwo wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 08:58
More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
our Dom/Com/bellend/arsehole, has put our new times up today. they are:-Monday..9.30-16.41
Tuesday..9.30-16.41
Wednesday..9.00-16.50
Thursday..9.00=16.50
Friday..9.30-16.41.
Saturday..8.30-15.41
so if the E/A is not pulled i can't see our rule 13 being denied with this type of change. where is the work/life balance in that? if we ARE denied carrying out local action, are they going to bring in the status quo? anyone who is ok with this type of change are easily pleased or s**t scared to do anything about it. no wonder we got a massive yes.
I said ages ago that I reckoned that with later start times that hours in DOs would be 09:00-17:00 and everyone said it would never happen, well looks like I was right
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by ted_e_bear »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 19:24
AlbertHerbertHawkins wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 19:09
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:32
roman wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 16:27
To daveyeff, what were your starting times before ?
Mon 6.50-14.50 Tues 6.30-14.30 Wed 6.20-15.00 Thurs 6.20-15.00 Fri 6.45-15.00 Sat 6.15-14.00.
Have they changed your attendance patterns as well? These times don't add up to a normal 37 hour week.
we are on 9 day fortnights. over a month it will average out at 37 hours per week. one week you work 5 days, the next week 4 days and so on.
9 day fortnights, surprised they haven't tried to piss you off anymore, they'll probably announce tomorrow that they're going as well.