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Executive Action in offices

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guardianangel
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by guardianangel »

The strikes should have been called as soon as the ballot result came out ,the CWU's hesitancy and trying to please everyone has let this happen,if people don't want the change then an all out strike or at the least 3 days every week is the only way,if they don't want to lose money then i'm afraid its get another job or stop moaning,sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by sixfoottwo »

More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by ihatedogs »

SMS1969 wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 19:47
There was definitely a draft contract shown on here with 28k as the annual salary.
Are we definitely talking deliveries here? Because that's the approximate pay for a full time MGV driver.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by daveyeff »

sixfoottwo wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 08:58
More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
our Dom/Com/bellend/arsehole, has put our new times up today. they are:-Monday..9.30-16.41
Tuesday..9.30-16.41
Wednesday..9.00-16.50
Thursday..9.00=16.50
Friday..9.30-16.41.
Saturday..8.30-15.41
so if the E/A is not pulled i can't see our rule 13 being denied with this type of change. where is the work/life balance in that? if we ARE denied carrying out local action, are they going to bring in the status quo? anyone who is ok with this type of change are easily pleased or s**t scared to do anything about it. no wonder we got a massive yes.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by toonshola »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 11:33
sixfoottwo wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 08:58
More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
our Dom/Com/bellend/arsehole, has put our new times up today. they are:-Monday..9.30-16.41
Tuesday..9.30-16.41
Wednesday..9.00-16.50
Thursday..9.00=16.50
Friday..9.30-16.41.
Saturday..8.30-15.41
so if the E/A is not pulled i can't see our rule 13 being denied with this type of change. where is the work/life balance in that? if we ARE denied carrying out local action, are they going to bring in the status quo? anyone who is ok with this type of change are easily pleased or s**t scared to do anything about it. no wonder we got a massive yes.
Goodness me that is horrific, if anything close to those times gets introduced in our office my life is going to be tipped upside down as need to pick kids up for 3.30
Where the hell is the union right now? Absolutely sick of the days of silence from them while they have cushy secret meetings as Royal Mail completely bulldoze us out here in the real world.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by daveyeff »

they are in ''extensive'' talks for the next 3 weeks starting from today, but we have been informed the executive action is also being pulled from today. if its NOT, then all we have is the rule 13 we are awaiting clearance for.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by daveyeff »

they are also taking the reserves off their 9 day fortnights and putting them on a 1 in 6.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by daveyeff »

to say i am absolutely raging and spitting blood here right now is an understatement. :evil/mad
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by postslippete »

Splappy_McSplap wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 19:03
chrisj wrote:
26 Feb 2023, 18:13
I have seen agency staff pick things up in 2 weeks especially with park and loop partnership. I work with an agency staff that is miles better than most. He is also prepping these days!
You mean the agency staff whose parcels I kept finding on people's steps or doorways? The agency staff that just "No Access" half the packets and bring them back? The agency staff that missort packets to me on the IPS that I have to go put to the right division?
Nothing against agency staff as it's not their fault. RM tend to use them as canon fodder. Many of them obviously worked hours past finish time at Xmas, so that was more money thrown down the drain imho
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by ted_e_bear »

daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 11:33
sixfoottwo wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 08:58
More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
our Dom/Com/bellend/arsehole, has put our new times up today. they are:-Monday..9.30-16.41
Tuesday..9.30-16.41
Wednesday..9.00-16.50
Thursday..9.00=16.50
Friday..9.30-16.41.
Saturday..8.30-15.41
so if the E/A is not pulled i can't see our rule 13 being denied with this type of change. where is the work/life balance in that? if we ARE denied carrying out local action, are they going to bring in the status quo? anyone who is ok with this type of change are easily pleased or s**t scared to do anything about it. no wonder we got a massive yes.
9 bastard 30 is that some sort of piss take presumably just about the whole office is kicking off.
datasaint
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by datasaint »

I think a lot of this change is to force people out of the door.

It stands to reason when new entrants are on 20% less pay, RM will use any tactic they can to get the old brigade out and save money in the process.

A sad state of affairs really, but the union have been weak for too long, the last strike was over two months ago now, anybody outside would think the dispute is over.
Last edited by datasaint on 27 Feb 2023, 14:50, edited 1 time in total.
Ferrari5825
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by Ferrari5825 »

ted_e_bear wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 14:23
daveyeff wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 11:33
sixfoottwo wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 08:58
More exec action in ours today.

Walks collapsed and just been told to take another 100+ calls of the affected duty, this on top of oversize going back to walks, did I mention the walks were already unachievable before all this :crazy:

Madness.
our Dom/Com/bellend/arsehole, has put our new times up today. they are:-Monday..9.30-16.41
Tuesday..9.30-16.41
Wednesday..9.00-16.50
Thursday..9.00=16.50
Friday..9.30-16.41.
Saturday..8.30-15.41
so if the E/A is not pulled i can't see our rule 13 being denied with this type of change. where is the work/life balance in that? if we ARE denied carrying out local action, are they going to bring in the status quo? anyone who is ok with this type of change are easily pleased or s**t scared to do anything about it. no wonder we got a massive yes.
9 bastard 30 is that some sort of piss take presumably just about the whole office is kicking off.
What were the normal start and finish times before on deliveries?
dazzler123
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by dazzler123 »

whats the point of the late starts? Who is going to be home at 4pm who isnt home at 2pm
yellowbelly
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by yellowbelly »

dazzler123 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 15:15
whats the point of the late starts? Who is going to be home at 4pm who isnt home at 2pm
That's not the point (from RM's POV). RM have got a mega bucks contract from (insert name of large company here)
who insist on next day delivery being available. In order for RM to be able to offer that, starting times have to be
pushed back. Whether someone is in or not is irrelevant to RM hierarchy, they've got the megabucks contract
and the shareholders are happy!

They don't care whether the kids have to be put in childcare for that extra
hour/hour and half after school or whether we get stuck in rush hour traffic
doing the last bit of delivery or trying to get home. After all if no one's in
at 3pm we can try again at the same time the next day (according to RM's latest
brain wave) when of course the same people WON'T BE IN! :crazy:
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Re: Executive Action in offices

Post by clashcityrocker »

dazzler123 wrote:
27 Feb 2023, 15:15
What's the point of the late starts?
Fewer night shifts in Mail Centres.
Trains instead of planes.
More work on hand in DOs rather than standing around waiting for the next lorry.
No more LAT duties?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.