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RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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ted_e_bear
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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pieoftheday wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:05
BigSacks wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:56
The crossover of data between tracked and walk logs is useful for those who are not familiar with duties.

I.e a reserve or new entrant now has access to hazard details the minute they scan a tracked.

If I’m cynical, this also provides the company with a convenient get-out of any liability to self employed owner drivers who get injured/attacked by a dog when delivering RM parcels.
I wouldnt trust a pda to tell me of hazards, I've had loads warning of a dog at the property when there isnt one
That'll be because the walklog or whatever it's called is out of date, the dog probably died or the owners moved house years ago, by the same nature the PDA won't warn you of a dog if it hasn't been updated, if you can find someone to admit to it being their job then they should be able to update the system.
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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ted_e_bear wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:23
pieoftheday wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:05
BigSacks wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:56
The crossover of data between tracked and walk logs is useful for those who are not familiar with duties.

I.e a reserve or new entrant now has access to hazard details the minute they scan a tracked.

If I’m cynical, this also provides the company with a convenient get-out of any liability to self employed owner drivers who get injured/attacked by a dog when delivering RM parcels.
I wouldnt trust a pda to tell me of hazards, I've had loads warning of a dog at the property when there isnt one
That'll be because the walklog or whatever it's called is out of date, the dog probably died or the owners moved house years ago, by the same nature the PDA won't warn you of a dog if it hasn't been updated, if you can find someone to admit to it being their job then they should be able to update the system.
Very possible but some are customers who have lived there 20 years and have never had a dog
pieoftheday
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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pieoftheday wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:32
ted_e_bear wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:23
pieoftheday wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:05
BigSacks wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:56
The crossover of data between tracked and walk logs is useful for those who are not familiar with duties.

I.e a reserve or new entrant now has access to hazard details the minute they scan a tracked.

If I’m cynical, this also provides the company with a convenient get-out of any liability to self employed owner drivers who get injured/attacked by a dog when delivering RM parcels.
I wouldnt trust a pda to tell me of hazards, I've had loads warning of a dog at the property when there isnt one
That'll be because the walklog or whatever it's called is out of date, the dog probably died or the owners moved house years ago, by the same nature the PDA won't warn you of a dog if it hasn't been updated, if you can find someone to admit to it being their job then they should be able to update the system.
Very possible but some are customers who have lived there 20 years and have never had a dog.
the walk log and hazard card was updated on my delivery 18 months ago, I did it :left:
Barnacle
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

Post by Barnacle »

pieoftheday wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:32
ted_e_bear wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:23
pieoftheday wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 11:05
BigSacks wrote:
05 Feb 2023, 10:56
The crossover of data between tracked and walk logs is useful for those who are not familiar with duties.

I.e a reserve or new entrant now has access to hazard details the minute they scan a tracked.

If I’m cynical, this also provides the company with a convenient get-out of any liability to self employed owner drivers who get injured/attacked by a dog when delivering RM parcels.
I wouldnt trust a pda to tell me of hazards, I've had loads warning of a dog at the property when there isnt one
That'll be because the walklog or whatever it's called is out of date, the dog probably died or the owners moved house years ago, by the same nature the PDA won't warn you of a dog if it hasn't been updated, if you can find someone to admit to it being their job then they should be able to update the system.
Very possible but some are customers who have lived there 20 years and have never had a dog
A few months back they went round asking us for any hazards on our walks and they dutifully noted them. Hasn’t meant that our PDAs hazard list is at all up to date but you can bet that if anything happens it will be our fault for not keeping the list up to date. There should be an edit feature on the PDA.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Hi
Currently on leave.
First heard of this is on this site.
One of many times learning here rather from my DO.
Forgive me, but does this mean we have to complete our walk in a set pattern every day?
I tend to vary my starting point due to specials, flats access button, and yes a bit of variety, eg getting the tough part out of the way whilst fresh so to speak... .
On a single walk.
Thanks in advance for clarifying.
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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TOWER1 wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:19
Hi
Currently on leave.
First heard of this is on this site.
One of many times learning here rather from my DO.
Forgive me, but does this mean we have to complete our walk in a set pattern every day?
I tend to vary my starting point due to specials, flats access button, and yes a bit of variety, eg getting the tough part out of the way whilst fresh so to speak... .
On a single walk.
Thanks in advance for clarifying.
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
TOWER1
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Hi Barnacle,
Many thanks for clarifying.
I agree. It will be their future intention.
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:28
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
I can't wait to see how that works for a city centre job with 9am specials, shops/companies that are closed and require circling back to, and doing lapsing either at the start or at the end depending on road closures and the previously mentioned timed deliveries.
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:25
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:28
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
I can't wait to see how that works for a city centre job with 9am specials, shops/companies that are closed and require circling back to, and doing lapsing either at the start or at the end depending on road closures and the previously mentioned timed deliveries.
Won’t work at all will it? But that won’t stop them thinking it will if they just tell us to do it, and then ta daaa! Done 🙄
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:39
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:25
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:28
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
I can't wait to see how that works for a city centre job with 9am specials, shops/companies that are closed and require circling back to, and doing lapsing either at the start or at the end depending on road closures and the previously mentioned timed deliveries.
Won’t work at all will it? But that won’t stop them thinking it will if they just tell us to do it, and then ta daaa! Done 🙄
The separation of letters business from anything that Evri might deliver is on the cards? Dont know how that would work mind but what's happening now cant go on for ever ?
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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pieoftheday wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 18:19
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:39
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:25
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:28
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
I can't wait to see how that works for a city centre job with 9am specials, shops/companies that are closed and require circling back to, and doing lapsing either at the start or at the end depending on road closures and the previously mentioned timed deliveries.
Won’t work at all will it? But that won’t stop them thinking it will if they just tell us to do it, and then ta daaa! Done 🙄
The separation of letters business from anything that Evri might deliver is on the cards? Dont know how that would work mind but what's happening now cant go on for ever ?
I know I’m just a pleb but I can’t see how delivering letters and parcels separately, is more efficient and cost effective than posties delivering them together.

It’s as if they are trying to wish the letters away.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
pieoftheday
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 18:53
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 18:19
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:39
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:25
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:28
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
I can't wait to see how that works for a city centre job with 9am specials, shops/companies that are closed and require circling back to, and doing lapsing either at the start or at the end depending on road closures and the previously mentioned timed deliveries.
Won’t work at all will it? But that won’t stop them thinking it will if they just tell us to do it, and then ta daaa! Done 🙄
The separation of letters business from anything that Evri might deliver is on the cards? Dont know how that would work mind but what's happening now cant go on for ever ?
I know I’m just a pleb but I can’t see how delivering letters and parcels separately, is more efficient and cost effective than posties delivering them together.

It’s as if they are trying to wish the letters away.
I agree I cant see that happening within the same business. How a mainly letters business with small packets ,a bit like it was 15+ years ago would fair I dont know, is such a business even feasible in the coming decades? I think theres money in letter delivery at the moment, but for how long :hmmmm
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Re: RMCtv : Some of you may have noticed that a new indoor scanning mode has appeared on PDAs today.

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Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 18:53
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 18:19
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:39
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 17:25
Barnacle wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 08:28
At the moment no. But I imagine that to be their future intention, to make a walk revolve around delivery of he parcels which they seem to think are going to vastly increase in number.
I can't wait to see how that works for a city centre job with 9am specials, shops/companies that are closed and require circling back to, and doing lapsing either at the start or at the end depending on road closures and the previously mentioned timed deliveries.
Won’t work at all will it? But that won’t stop them thinking it will if they just tell us to do it, and then ta daaa! Done 🙄
The separation of letters business from anything that Evri might deliver is on the cards? Dont know how that would work mind but what's happening now cant go on for ever ?
I know I’m just a pleb but I can’t see how delivering letters and parcels separately, is more efficient and cost effective than posties delivering them together.

It’s as if they are trying to wish the letters away.
Probably letters and small non Tracked items will be delivered on alternative days of the week? Looking at my own post this week I doubt many customers are sat at home waiting for the latest Cotton Traders sale brochure etc to drop though their letter boxes, what's the point in us delivering just one letter a day to most houses?