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Strike 16/17 February called off

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dvbuk55
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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I retired 8 years ago after 25 years and I see that nothing has changed with regards to the CWU. The state of the union for the postie on the street is immeasurably worse than it was even when I retired let alone for the years before. Until the CWU and RM come together on a fair and reasonable pay offer with a workable system that competes with the myriad delivery companies who deliver 7 days a week until later in the day then there will not be a solution.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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At least Royal Mail fighting against this 1 day strike shows that a 1 day strike does harm the business.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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The more harm it does then there is less chance of a settlement imo. I was surprised that the strikes leading up to Christmas didn't have more of an impact than they did, despite the delays so striking now would I imagine have less of an impact.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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The more harm it does then there is less chance of a settlement imo. I was surprised that the strikes leading up to Christmas didn't have more of an impact than they did, despite the delays so striking now would I imagine have less of an impact.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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Lost almost 2k in wages and allowances and 2 days leave and the CWU can’t get it right what an absolute joke it’s not as if it’s the first time
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

Post by ANDREW CROCOMBE »

Changes coming in February. People losing rounds or jobs, £1800 gone, vote YES, what for ? Sold down the river yet again, thanks cwu.Day off changes, so holidays may have to change too. Just great 😭
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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Cwu would say we've got them (RM) against the ropes.
Under Siege
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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Eduardo wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 11:15
Cwu would say we've got them (RM) against the ropes.
Would love to know how?
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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derricksmyth wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 21:25
Listen deep breath, relax. We will call another strike date and remember, management want to SMASH our Union! We will be even more totally screwed if we lose our Union and I know the membership are frustrated by this latest setback, but we have to stick together. Vote Yes !!!!
We can't call another date yet as there are no ballots left "in time" to do so. It's going to be March at the earliest now assuming a yes vote and it passes the threshold.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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Shadedpostie wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 09:23
Eduardo wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 04:02
Maybe with running two ballots with multiple issues involved and multiple historical agreements under dispute is making things overly complicated and RM with their deep pockets (whilst simultaneously pleading poverty) and expensive lawyers can always find some area to legally challenge the dispute, maybe this is the CWU's mistake.

Let's hope the next ballot will result in a much simpler tactic with less room to slip up.
Keep it simple and straight forward.
Looking back at it, it was a mind boggling why they even had two ballots instead of just doing them one in a whole. Seems like even in past disputes the pay has always been linked to changes being done with the job. The CWU themselves set the bar in that regard. It was dumb for them to even giving these guys an inch with every pay deal since. I guess though the CWU felt confident enough to actually get a pay deal without any strings to it. Not so much now I don't think, seems like they've completely abandoned that idea now and just trying to get any deal in that's better than this one.
It started because they had a pay ballot and insisted for four months that there should be a pay deal without change. They couldn't then take action on anything change related as there was no legal mandate.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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norris9 wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 10:35
At least Royal Mail fighting against this 1 day strike shows that a 1 day strike does harm the business.
Seriously? This isn't about the strike day it's about RM showing up the unions incompetence. Look at the sarcasm in the post by Mc Auley.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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Simple Simon not so simple he has the union on the way out :
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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I can only speak for myself but I am considerably more angered by Mr Macaulay's tone than I am by any failings of the union!!
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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daveyeff wrote:
06 Feb 2023, 19:41
ffs...how can it be illegal....its the last day of a legal ballot.
Because they listed on the reason for strike the Executive Action being carried out and now Royal Mail have added the Executive Action on the subject of the pay deal Jesus wept incompetent doesn't really suffice for how badly this has dispute has been played out by the CWU. The whole rhetoric of "We can Win this dispute" is so dated and out of touch with the reality of most of Royal Mail's staff experience in the last 5 years but then that's what happens when you are so far removed from the day to day running of the company and spend all your time with Upper Management.
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Re: Strike 16/17 February called off

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Eduardo wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 11:15
Cwu would say we've got them (RM) against the ropes.
Yep pity that Royal Mail are Muhammad Ali and the CWU are George Foreman and we will fall over in the 8th round from exhaustion