I vaguely recall some of the older blokes saying that when I started in the 80s, however it was a much easier job in delivery and a lot of people did 60/70 hour weeks
It probably was virtually all letters back then. Parcels probably only become a larger chunk of the workload when firms started opening shops online
Oh definitely, when I started in 86, walks had a letter bag for packets,if it got half full it was a bad day no parcels as such for walks
Area rep has been in today and confirmed we don't have to stay out but has advised we take a witness when informing the manager that they might be cutting off.
Just text them during your duty at 12.30 saying you are cutting off , this way you have a record
I vaguely recall some of the older blokes saying that when I started in the 80s, however it was a much easier job in delivery and a lot of people did 60/70 hour weeks
It probably was virtually all letters back then. Parcels probably only become a larger chunk of the workload when firms started opening shops online
And walks that were maybe a third what they are now. If that.
I vaguely recall some of the older blokes saying that when I started in the 80s, however it was a much easier job in delivery and a lot of people did 60/70 hour weeks
It probably was virtually all letters back then. Parcels probably only become a larger chunk of the workload when firms started opening shops online
And walks that were maybe a third what they are now. If that.
Something that's important to cover off is that we're looking to enhance the commit to deliver principle, whereby if you're allocated some work for a route on a day, we would want that work to be completed. So if we look at our competitors, they wouldn't cut off and return to the Depo. With some work outstanding. What we're looking for within the really flexible hours approach is to have that ability to flex on the day outside of those scheduled hours. So that if there are variations from day to day, we complete that work. And if we go over the scheduled time, we bank those hours.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Something that's important to cover off is that we're looking to enhance the commit to deliver principle, whereby if you're allocated some work for a route on a day, we would want that work to be completed. So if we look at our competitors, they wouldn't cut off and return to the Depo. With some work outstanding. What we're looking for within the really flexible hours approach is to have that ability to flex on the day outside of those scheduled hours. So that if there are variations from day to day, we complete that work. And if we go over the scheduled time, we bank those hours.
Reading between the lines of that link, have they forgotten letters ?
I guess most DO's had the NT magazines delivered this week, just imagine what that would mean in future "right then we want all these magazines delivered today, so i don't expect anybody to return to the DO until you've delivered every single magazine on your walk"
Although the way the walks are being extended during the revisions it looks like we'll just be working longer in the winter and not banking any hours in the summer! Basically pressure overtime will become a thing of the past.
Is it any wonder, most of us don't want to work for this massively shitty company anymore?
It’s as if they are purposefully ruining a job we all quite enjoyed, in order to make us leave.
They're almost there.
Nobody in their right mind would want to stay with this verminous company, if they didn't have to.
You do all realise in the real world that overtime is compulsory in most companies if they require it, its not an unusual or unreasonable request in 2023.
It is both unreasonable and unusual.
They could simply resource the office, without relying on overtime.
I vaguely recall some of the older blokes saying that when I started in the 80s, however it was a much easier job in delivery and a lot of people did 60/70 hour weeks
It probably was virtually all letters back then. Parcels probably only become a larger chunk of the workload when firms started opening shops online
Parcels were a different Product from Letters / Packets , once sorted they were transfered to the local BR Station where they were handed over to BR Staff for Loading to Parcel Trains , which also coveyed B Rail Parcels
After unloading at the destination they were collected by RM Staff
Parcels usually had dedicated delivery duties , this is the work that transfered to Parcel Force
Is it any wonder, most of us don't want to work for this massively shitty company anymore?
It’s as if they are purposefully ruining a job we all quite enjoyed, in order to make us leave.
They're almost there.
Nobody in their right mind would want to stay with this verminous company, if they didn't have to.
You do all realise in the real world that overtime is compulsory in most companies if they require it, its not an unusual or unreasonable request in 2023.
It is both unreasonable and unusual.
They could simply resource the office, without relying on overtime.
Shh.....you'll soon be suggesting we get managers that can manage/decent vans/waterproof coats that repel water/walking shoes that you can comfortably walk in.
Is it any wonder, most of us don't want to work for this massively shitty company anymore?
It’s as if they are purposefully ruining a job we all quite enjoyed, in order to make us leave.
They're almost there.
Nobody in their right mind would want to stay with this verminous company, if they didn't have to.
You do all realise in the real world that overtime is compulsory in most companies if they require it, its not an unusual or unreasonable request in 2023.
It is both unreasonable and unusual.
They could simply resource the office, without relying on overtime.
Employing people costs extra money ( insurance, annual leave,sickness) it is still much cheaper for the company to throw OT at the remaing staff.
Is it any wonder, most of us don't want to work for this massively shitty company anymore?
It’s as if they are purposefully ruining a job we all quite enjoyed, in order to make us leave.
They're almost there.
Nobody in their right mind would want to stay with this verminous company, if they didn't have to.
You do all realise in the real world that overtime is compulsory in most companies if they require it, its not an unusual or unreasonable request in 2023.
It is both unreasonable and unusual.
They could simply resource the office, without relying on overtime.
Employing people costs extra money ( insurance, annual leave,sickness) it is still much cheaper for the company to throw OT at the remaing staff.
Understood.
We are however NOT just another company.
We are a public service, it is why we have a Universal Service Obligation.
When they bought us they knew that and promised to uphold it.
You can not run an obligation on good will and the hope of overtime. They have deliberately and brutally cut hours. They have deliberately introduced a low hours part time and therefore low waged workforce. Forcing them to work overtime to make up a poor wage.
Best terms and conditions in the industry my arse .
We should never have been privatised and the government were naive if they thought this wouldn't happen.
Is it any wonder, most of us don't want to work for this massively shitty company anymore?
It’s as if they are purposefully ruining a job we all quite enjoyed, in order to make us leave.
They're almost there.
Nobody in their right mind would want to stay with this verminous company, if they didn't have to.
You do all realise in the real world that overtime is compulsory in most companies if they require it, its not an unusual or unreasonable request in 2023.
It is both unreasonable and unusual.
They could simply resource the office, without relying on overtime.
Employing people costs extra money ( insurance, annual leave,sickness) it is still much cheaper for the company to throw OT at the remaing staff.
Understood.
We are however NOT just another company.
We are a public service, it is why we have a Universal Service Obligation.
When they bought us they knew that and promised to uphold it.
You can not run an obligation on good will and the hope of overtime. They have deliberately and brutally cut hours. They have deliberately introduced a low hours part time and therefore low waged workforce. Forcing them to work overtime to make up a poor wage.
Best terms and conditions in the industry my arse .
We should never have been privatised and the government were naive if they thought this wouldn't happen.
Exactly.
And what a ramshackle way to run a postal service, to make it dependent on staff working overtime. As soon as staff say no, or when they idiotically banned overtime, the USO is in instant backlog. Run by morons.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
mind you we still moaned
