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Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

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freespeech
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by freespeech »

BigSacks wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 17:49
Surely the committee only need to ask how many staff we have on an OPG hourly rate.

Then what our wage bill is.

And how can that be if 97% are on 37 hours per week.


You don’t need a chief financial officer to figure that one out.
This has already been clarified.....it's 97% permanent contracts.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

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postieblueshirt wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:17
Oh it's on the BBC if you are licence dodger pay up it will be worth the fee just for this..
Nothing is worth paying that ridiculous fee for
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

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Barnacle wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:33
mjd24 wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:21
POSTPERSON50 wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 16:13
enskied wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 15:46
claystones wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 15:08
Great news Simon your going to get your comeuppance you have tried to walk all over us but we stood strong and other people are now going after you just one point from the enquiry Simon said 97% of royal mail workers are full time surely thats not right the CWU should bring that up as well
You are correct he did say that. Now if I look at anything from HR I am classed as full time. I'm on 30 hrs. However when it comes to bonus payments I am classed as part time.

Bit of a scam there... Or a damn right lie.
I think he meant permanent
He was clearly trying to sneakily imply full time when the actual stats he is referring to is for permanent staff.
I wish his assertion of full time/permanent staff being 97% or whatever, had been dissected because just looking at one division, not one female member of staff is on 37 hours. If I was to do a quick male/female count across my office, I know that only a tiny minority of women will be 37 hours. That’s pretty disgraceful.

You could argue that it’s just done in order of seniority but for the fact that I inadvertently opened a can of worms when I discovered a male had been made up ahead of me. It transpired he’d been made up ahead of five women.
In my experience, women very rarely get made up to full time. It has historically been the strong male characters who have been given extra hours, the ones who wear basketball shorts and football socks without ever being challenged by management. They get the overtime ahead the women despite the majority of the women being really good grafters.

I've done over 27 years and in all my time the female managers have rarely supported and 'looked after' the women like they do the men.

Very much a masculine environment on the whole where I've worked.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by enskied »

freespeech wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:50
BigSacks wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 17:49
Surely the committee only need to ask how many staff we have on an OPG hourly rate.

Then what our wage bill is.

And how can that be if 97% are on 37 hours per week.


You don’t need a chief financial officer to figure that one out.
This has already been clarified.....it's 97% permanent contracts.
Oh, who clarified that ?
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by Lounge Lizard »

arsenalbob wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 20:42
Thompson will contemplate suicide in the Thames when he’s finally cornered. Like Christie in 10 Rillington Place. The man even lies and sounds like him. Fingers crossed anyway :Very Happy
John Christie began working as a postman on 10th January 1921 in Halifax and his first conviction was for stealing postal orders on 20th February and 26th March for which he received three months' imprisonment on 12 April 1921. But rather than suicide in the Thames Christie was hanged on 15th July 1953 at HM Prison Pentonville.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by Barnacle »

POSTPERSON50 wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 22:08
Barnacle wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:33
mjd24 wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:21
POSTPERSON50 wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 16:13
enskied wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 15:46
claystones wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 15:08
Great news Simon your going to get your comeuppance you have tried to walk all over us but we stood strong and other people are now going after you just one point from the enquiry Simon said 97% of royal mail workers are full time surely thats not right the CWU should bring that up as well
You are correct he did say that. Now if I look at anything from HR I am classed as full time. I'm on 30 hrs. However when it comes to bonus payments I am classed as part time.

Bit of a scam there... Or a damn right lie.
I think he meant permanent
He was clearly trying to sneakily imply full time when the actual stats he is referring to is for permanent staff.
I wish his assertion of full time/permanent staff being 97% or whatever, had been dissected because just looking at one division, not one female member of staff is on 37 hours. If I was to do a quick male/female count across my office, I know that only a tiny minority of women will be 37 hours. That’s pretty disgraceful.

You could argue that it’s just done in order of seniority but for the fact that I inadvertently opened a can of worms when I discovered a male had been made up ahead of me. It transpired he’d been made up ahead of five women.
In my experience, women very rarely get made up to full time. It has historically been the strong male characters who have been given extra hours, the ones who wear basketball shorts and football socks without ever being challenged by management. They get the overtime ahead the women despite the majority of the women being really good grafters.

I've done over 27 years and in all my time the female managers have rarely supported and 'looked after' the women like they do the men.

Very much a masculine environment on the whole where I've worked.
Hmmm. I’m going to dig into the numbers at my place to see just how bad the disparity is.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by TopperGas »

POSTPERSON50 wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 16:13
enskied wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 15:46
claystones wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 15:08
Great news Simon your going to get your comeuppance you have tried to walk all over us but we stood strong and other people are now going after you just one point from the enquiry Simon said 97% of royal mail workers are full time surely thats not right the CWU should bring that up as well
You are correct he did say that. Now if I look at anything from HR I am classed as full time. I'm on 30 hrs. However when it comes to bonus payments I am classed as part time.

Bit of a scam there... Or a damn right lie.
I think he meant permanent
Surely a CEO knows the difference between Full Time and permanent staff, I feel it was just trying to hoodwink the PC into thinking the majority of staff were FT
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

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I find it hard to believe that the official line today from RM is that they welcome the opportunity for ST to face the PC again, don't they realise how serious this could be of ST if he lies to them again? Then, just to rub it in, make a load of "truthful" statements about the pay review.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

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Will the union be present again, or is it just the chucklebrothers?
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

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Never gets old, lost count of how many times I’ve watched this, what a plonker :left: :wave :Very Happy
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by norris9 »

I don't understand why there was absolutely nothing in that grilling of Thompson in relation to cynical understaffing of offices, the dismantling of some rounds so they can be split up and added to existing rounds which will then become too big to complete therefore delaying mail further.

At least there was questioning in relation to that poster which shows the USO being disregarded, but there is so much more to the delaying of mail than just that poster.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by BigSacks »

freespeech wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 21:50
BigSacks wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 17:49
Surely the committee only need to ask how many staff we have on an OPG hourly rate.

Then what our wage bill is.

And how can that be if 97% are on 37 hours per week.


You don’t need a chief financial officer to figure that one out.
This has already been clarified.....it's 97% permanent contracts.

Sorry, clarified by who?

He said that 97% of employees are full time.

If I hear the CEO of Argos say that then I assume, quite rightly and fairly, that 97 out of 100 of their employees get paid more than 35 hours money a week.
This was the impression he tried to make.
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by Seamus70 »

FilthyBloke wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 20:54
I’m more interested in how Mr Williams is dealt with. We all know ST is a puppet in all this.
I read on Twitter, via the Twitter comments on this thread (page 1 or 2) that some RM Mechanics were saying that RM has started to send vehicles out for maintenance/repair, on a trail basis, to Halfords. Guess who is on the Board of Halfords?

"Keith Williams CBE is a British businessman who has been chairman of Halfords and Royal Mail since 2018. He was chief executive officer of British Airways from 2011 to 2016." extract from Wikipedia
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by pieoftheday »

Seamus70 wrote:
25 Jan 2023, 09:54
FilthyBloke wrote:
24 Jan 2023, 20:54
I’m more interested in how Mr Williams is dealt with. We all know ST is a puppet in all this.
I read on Twitter, via the Twitter comments on this thread (page 1 or 2) that some RM Mechanics were saying that RM has started to send vehicles out for maintenance/repair, on a trail basis, to Halfords. Guess who is on the Board of Halfords?

"Keith Williams CBE is a British businessman who has been chairman of Halfords and Royal Mail since 2018. He was chief executive officer of British Airways from 2011 to 2016." extract from Wikipedia
If true and not just idle rumour it's another one to be forwarded on to the select committee
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Re: Royal Mail CEO recalled to Parliament along with Keith Williams

Post by Binsey »

All this is a huge distraction.

I carnt believe how people have become obsessed with this charade.
Entertaining certainly.
Good to see the hypocrisy and lies out in the open.


But….


Meanwhile in every office in the country the termites are at work,