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Cwu where are you ?

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roman
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by roman »

If you read the agreement on the no strike clause it does say industrial unrest would nullify it.
walthmstowman
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by walthmstowman »

aiden01 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:36
walthmstowman wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 23:06
Eduardo wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 20:26
walthmstowman wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 20:07
No union has agreed to change and modernisation more than the CWU . We had agreements in place like " The Pathway to Change'. Proper agreements for change and modernisation which Royal Mail simply tore up .
The crux of the argument that will not go away is "did we/the Union break this agreement by taking industrial action when we swore not to?"
Were the Union solely instrumental in triggering this whole sorry episode of industrial strife by breaking their promise In this agreement.
Was the 2% rise part of the last agreement the Union signed?

This subject of breaking a no strike clause really needs to be brought to the surface and discussed.
It brings into question strong words like trust and faith.

I am an OPG Union man by the way and not a manager.
Thanks.
It was only 'after' the management tore up every agreement did we go on strike . Basically there was no longer any agreement left in place to break.
Seriously??
Unless my memory is failing me ...yes .
Hador
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by Hador »

walthmstowman wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 11:12
aiden01 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:36
walthmstowman wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 23:06
Eduardo wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 20:26
walthmstowman wrote:
04 Jan 2023, 20:07
No union has agreed to change and modernisation more than the CWU . We had agreements in place like " The Pathway to Change'. Proper agreements for change and modernisation which Royal Mail simply tore up .
The crux of the argument that will not go away is "did we/the Union break this agreement by taking industrial action when we swore not to?"
Were the Union solely instrumental in triggering this whole sorry episode of industrial strife by breaking their promise In this agreement.
Was the 2% rise part of the last agreement the Union signed?

This subject of breaking a no strike clause really needs to be brought to the surface and discussed.
It brings into question strong words like trust and faith.

I am an OPG Union man by the way and not a manager.
Thanks.
It was only 'after' the management tore up every agreement did we go on strike . Basically there was no longer any agreement left in place to break.
Seriously??
Unless my memory is failing me ...yes .
probably you have a problem with memory
guardianangel
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by guardianangel »

neviboss wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 15:45
Just checked on Companies House, CWU dissolved, rebranded as LCWU!

Lack of Communications Workers Union. :nana
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
walthmstowman
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by walthmstowman »

So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
aiden01
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by aiden01 »

walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
walthmstowman
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by walthmstowman »

aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:45
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
100% I will always defend my union and colleagues .
aiden01
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by aiden01 »

walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:28
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:45
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
100% I will always defend my union and colleagues .
So getting walked all over in your office an you still back them.
cod
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by cod »

aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:53
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:28
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:45
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
100% I will always defend my union and colleagues .
So getting walked all over in your office an you still back them.
For heaven sake !!! What do you want, do you want Dave Ward to turn up at every office thats having executive action forced on them and start shouting the odds, I'll say one more time, if you have changes force through at your office, those changes must work, if they are unachievable then they will FAIL, and I'll tell you where the union is it's in those offices, its the postman and women doing their job properly as they suppose to be done, not coming in early, meal brakes, not running around like a lunatic, etc etc etc, the union is just that getting together with your colleagues, if there's no rep become one, if you're not the sorta person who could be a rep, get in touch with your area rep they will advise you can in touch on your mobile, in my experience area reps want to help but at some point individuals need to stand up and back eachother that's how a union works, its not dave ward or the postal executive, its us backing the union just means standing 95000 other postman and postwomen and doing your jobs properly and trust me that will help win this dispute and get us a deal which if we the members don't like we will throw out
justanumber
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by justanumber »

cod wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 20:48
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:53
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:28
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:45
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
100% I will always defend my union and colleagues .
So getting walked all over in your office an you still back them.
For heaven sake !!! What do you want, do you want Dave Ward to turn up at every office thats having executive action forced on them and start shouting the odds, I'll say one more time, if you have changes force through at your office, those changes must work, if they are unachievable then they will FAIL, and I'll tell you where the union is it's in those offices, its the postman and women doing their job properly as they suppose to be done, not coming in early, meal brakes, not running around like a lunatic, etc etc etc, the union is just that getting together with your colleagues, if there's no rep become one, if you're not the sorta person who could be a rep, get in touch with your area rep they will advise you can in touch on your mobile, in my experience area reps want to help but at some point individuals need to stand up and back eachother that's how a union works, its not dave ward or the postal executive, its us backing the union just means standing 95000 other postman and postwomen and doing your jobs properly and trust me that will help win this dispute and get us a deal which if we the members don't like we will throw out
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause ...Amen to that !!!
walthmstowman
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by walthmstowman »

aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:53
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:28
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:45
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
100% I will always defend my union and colleagues .
So getting walked all over in your office an you still back them.
What else can I do ?
Halfhappy
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Re: Cwu where are you ?

Post by Halfhappy »

walthmstowman wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 13:07
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:53
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 18:28
aiden01 wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:45
walthmstowman wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 15:19
So many changes announced where I work due to executive action and there seems to be complete silence from the union .
So will you still back cwu in next ballot??
100% I will always defend my union and colleagues .
So getting walked all over in your office an you still back them.
What else can I do ?
That's where Aiden's "points" stop.