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No sick pay without a doctor's note

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chickenwittle
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:05
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
This is coming from above probably Simon, and it's nationwide including managers. Our manager told us to put pressure on our union to fight this.
I’m sure it is but the instructions will come from your manager so that’s who you deal with. Ask for it in writing to take to your gp and see what they say.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:05
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
This is coming from above probably Simon, and it's nationwide including managers. Our manager told us to put pressure on our union to fight this.
Ask your manager why posties in other offices, including mine, have heard no such thing then
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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worktotime wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 09:09
and are the CWU going to at least comment on this and what we can do ? , and yet another unagreed action from thompson and his cronies :evil/mad
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause Yes they have been very quiet for the last few weeks,what i was afraid of is becoming a reality now ,Royal Mail have started to push through with their agenda with no answer from the CWU,is this the beginning of the end,by the time we ballot and call for more strike action it will all be over,its happening at lightening speed in our office with no rep or senior honcho from the union responding,they got shot of the union at virgin media and British gas is it now the turn of the CWU to feel the full force of the establishment.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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The global announcement has info and LTB's on the subject.
Your screws are taking the piss.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Acca Dacca wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:18
Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:05
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
This is coming from above probably Simon, and it's nationwide including managers. Our manager told us to put pressure on our union to fight this.
Ask your manager why posties in other offices, including mine, have heard no such thing then
That's a bit like comparing why some offices run massively differently from others.

Huge changes are happening in offices up and down the country.

Asking for something in writing won't stop peoples wages being reduced.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Cucumber wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:52
Acca Dacca wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:18
Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:05
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
This is coming from above probably Simon, and it's nationwide including managers. Our manager told us to put pressure on our union to fight this.
Ask your manager why posties in other offices, including mine, have heard no such thing then
That's a bit like comparing why some offices run massively differently from others.

Huge changes are happening in offices up and down the country.

Asking for something in writing won't stop peoples wages being reduced.
But it gives you a point of reference if your manager sanctions it in writing and it will help with any future appeal process should the manager do it , heard nothing in my office so I’m guessing it’s just another scare tactic from Royal Mail.would also be interesting what your gp would say on seeing the letter.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Eduardo »

POSTMAN wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:48
The global announcement has info and LTB's on the subject.
I'm sorry but what do you mean by this?
Thanks.

Edit.
It's OK I've worked it out.
Regards
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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So we all have to go and see our doctor on day1? even if we just have a migraine?.....

the NHS is under enough pressure as it is FFS!!!
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

Post by Acca Dacca »

Cucumber wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:52
Acca Dacca wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:18
Chitchat wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 15:05
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 12:13
Ask your manager to put it in writing so you can take the letter to your gp for a retrospective sick note , I bet he doesn’t.
This is coming from above probably Simon, and it's nationwide including managers. Our manager told us to put pressure on our union to fight this.
Ask your manager why posties in other offices, including mine, have heard no such thing then
That's a bit like comparing why some offices run massively differently from others.

Huge changes are happening in offices up and down the country.

Asking for something in writing won't stop peoples wages being reduced.
The manager is saying this is in force nationwide

It clearly isn’t and it’s not the sort of thing that can only apply to some offices but not others
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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They've been doing this in our division for a good few weeks along with `inviting` the long term sick in for a chat about their illness during strike days.
Our union reps have been told to give out` letter before action` on illegal deductions to anybody who has had their pay stopped.
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:10
Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 13:50
One thing I do know is, that being told that you aren't getting sick pay contains miracles! A couple of lazy b******s in our office pull the same sickie every year, the week after Christmas. Well the same boyos tried it last week to be told that they weren't getting paid. Guess what?? All of a sudden they weren't as sick as they thought and were in work next day!!
Not really , it bullies people into coming to work when they aren’t 100% .Makes me laugh when people accuse others of milking the system. Royal Mail have a sick policy and guidelines that they’ve signed up to . Why should people struggle through a days work when the company has no real compassion for them.
Who is accusing? I'm telling you a fact. The lads I'm talking about boast about it. This is the 1st time in 5 years one of them didn't do it because of the pay stoppage. The other was the 1st time in 8. Both were gutted they couldn't pull a fast one. Both were 100% fully fit. I understand what you are saying with people that are legitimately ill and I agree with you. Its not on that their pay is stopped. Its the ones paying the game that annoy me
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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thefox wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:54
Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 13:50
One thing I do know is, that being told that you aren't getting sick pay contains miracles! A couple of lazy b******s in our office pull the same sickie every year, the week after Christmas. Well the same boyos tried it last week to be told that they weren't getting paid. Guess what?? All of a sudden they weren't as sick as they thought and were in work next day!!
Thing is this aint just aimed at guys playing the system its aimed at everyone might not be as funny if you are floored with the flu but still have to come into work to put food in your children's stomachs or a roof over their head.
I agree 100%. It's aimed at us all. My point was that every office have their chancers that play the game and now that they're not being allowed a free pass for a week off on full pay and they can't get away with their wee move all of a sudden its a kick in the goolies for them
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:00
chickenwittle wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 14:10
Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 13:50
One thing I do know is, that being told that you aren't getting sick pay contains miracles! A couple of lazy b******s in our office pull the same sickie every year, the week after Christmas. Well the same boyos tried it last week to be told that they weren't getting paid. Guess what?? All of a sudden they weren't as sick as they thought and were in work next day!!
Not really , it bullies people into coming to work when they aren’t 100% .Makes me laugh when people accuse others of milking the system. Royal Mail have a sick policy and guidelines that they’ve signed up to . Why should people struggle through a days work when the company has no real compassion for them.
Who is accusing? I'm telling you a fact. The lads I'm talking about boast about it. This is the 1st time in 5 years one of them didn't do it because of the pay stoppage. The other was the 1st time in 8. Both were gutted they couldn't pull a fast one. Both were 100% fully fit. I understand what you are saying with people that are legitimately ill and I agree with you. Its not on that their pay is stopped. Its the ones paying the game that annoy me
So you keep it in your bonce how many times your work mates go sick?
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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They both said that it was the 1st time in those amount of years. I told you. They openly boast about it
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Re: No sick pay without a doctor's note

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Frankie15 wrote:
05 Jan 2023, 17:11
They both said that it was the 1st time in those amount of years. I told you. They openly boast about it
That’s not your problem, amazes me how others obsess over their fellow workers , there’s a sick policy in place in agreement with Royal Mail .