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PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

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chickenwittle
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by chickenwittle »

DGH wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:32
Acca Dacca wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:20
CWU have just confirmed that RM have rejected the offer

I’m genuinely shocked at that as it seemed to be calling them off and asking for pretty much nothing in return
I think it confirms that RM don't want any sort of decent settlement and they're prepared to take the financial loss to try and force their agenda through.
The union really need to announce more strike days as soon as possible.
They are not working, that’s obvious to everyone now surely.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by daveyeff »

a can't wait to see what Thompson's or some other top gobshite's reply will be to that then. can't say we didn't try.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by redlen »

Yet again continued attacks on Angard workers.

This is the reason why even as union members, they are crossing picket lines and cancelling membership of the CWU. They feel they are being stabbed in the back. The CWU need their support to win this dispute.

Even the Royal Mail contracted Christmas Casuals are being kept on after Christmas.
It is like fighting with one hand tied behind your back trying to convince Angard workers to change their minds and not cross picket lines, but can you blame them?
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by DGH »

chickenwittle wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:42
They are not working, that’s obvious to everyone now surely.

So what's the alternative?

A work to rule is an attractive idea, but would be intolerable for many part-timers who have done full time hours for years. It's also problematic in other ways.

We don't know that strikes aren't working. I'm not convinced myself that the one days strikes amounted to a hill of beans, but the two dayers have caused huge delays.

If we cave in then ST wins. If we don't cave in, maybe he wins anyway. It's not a great situation. The only thing we can really be sure of is that ST will say anything that he feels will help serve his agenda and cannot be trusted to do anything he promises to.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by guardianangel »

No stopping of strikes until pen is on paper and all reps suspended reinstated,what the hell is the union thinking,lets get the next strike dates out,please dont let these liars off the hook again.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by Binsey »

It’s just a job folks.

Admittedly until recently a half decent one.

My opinion is the 23/24 will finally break many people especially in Network/ Mail Centres..
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by norris9 »

Binsey wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:12
It’s just a job folks.

Admittedly until recently a half decent one.

My opinion is the 23/24 will finally break many people especially in Network/ Mail Centres..
I've seen 5 people get asked if they want to work their day off this week and all were like 'F that!!!'.

Even though we've had all these strike dates this month. No signs at my mail centre of people breaking. I am a part timer and I can deal with the strikes just fine.

It's actually nice to have some time off. Walking 10 miles everyday isn't good for you.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by roman »

Sounds a bit desperate from the p e c. I think Royal Mail will start implementing their new terms after Xmas which is perhaps why the union have thrown the dice. I really hope there is a compromise but it’s not looking good.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by Bellaber »

Overtime ban 100%in the next ballot,no loss of pay for no cooperation!!!!?
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by dazzler123 »

the upside is this will at least publicly paint RM as the bad guy in this, as we have made moves to save xmas which they have flat refused
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by post6675 »

From RMs persepective why would they settle now? The damage has already been done and they are close to christmas being over. Joint statements are not worth anything .They are close to christmas pressure being over and getting their own way. Why would they cave now an then deal with the union again in october instead of just marching on. This is utterly depressing and looks like a union white flag
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan , subject to a joint statement

Post by Trumanity »

CRIBMAD wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 14:54
final throw of some heavily weighted dice methinks !
I see the CWU Communications Director is earning his money again. Anyone heard of proof reading for typos before submitting letters?

"I would also urge you to stop boasting about you £1.7 billion war chest to take on the
union and instead use that money to invest in our members and a joint growth..."

Amateurs
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by Halfhappy »

Binsey wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:12
It’s just a job folks.

Admittedly until recently a half decent one.

My opinion is the 23/24 will finally break many people especially in Network/ Mail Centres..
It's the staff in mailcentres facing compulsory redundancies, I see it very unlikely they're going to break.
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan , subject to a joint statement

Post by DiamondSmiles »

Trumanity wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:39
CRIBMAD wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 14:54
final throw of some heavily weighted dice methinks !
I see the CWU Communications Director is earning his money again. Anyone heard of proof reading for typos before submitting letters?

"I would also urge you to stop boasting about you £1.7 billion war chest to take on the
union and instead use that money to invest in our members and a joint growth..."

Amateurs
And of course Mr Thompson knows ....how to... write....properly doesn't he?
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Re: PEC agreed yesterday to make Royal Mail a fresh offer to suspend this week's planned strikes and implement a period of calm until the 16th Jan, subject to a joint statement

Post by Halfhappy »

DGH wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:03
chickenwittle wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:42
They are not working, that’s obvious to everyone now surely.

So what's the alternative?

A work to rule is an attractive idea, but would be intolerable for many part-timers who have done full time hours for years. It's also problematic in other ways.

We don't know that strikes aren't working. I'm not convinced myself that the one days strikes amounted to a hill of beans, but the two dayers have caused huge delays.

If we cave in then ST wins. If we don't cave in, maybe he wins anyway. It's not a great situation. The only thing we can really be sure of is that ST will say anything that he feels will help serve his agenda and cannot be trusted to do anything he promises to.
There is no alternative. It's like a broken record listening to the same people say that the strikes aren't working. Of course they are, they're the only thing holding this entire attack, on our job security and terms, back.