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Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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daveyeff wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:31
a knew they wouldn't agree. they dont want a resolution.
Or is it the union refusing to budge? we are literally kept in the dark about the negotioations
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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worktotime wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:49
Martin Walsh wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:24
Further to the update this afternoon, we can confirm that within hours of receiving our letter, Royal Mail Group have rejected our attempt to resolve the dispute.

The strikes planned for 23/24 December will go ahead.

We remain available for further talks facilitated by ACAS

Dave Ward
General Secretary

Andy Furey
Acting Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
so will the CWU be hitting them with more strikes dates tomorrow between xmas and new year before any of our ballots expire ? , imo we should be .
if no strikes happen until a reballot it will have been all for nothing imo , they will catch up adn there terms will be pushed through
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:24
norris9 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:13
Why did they reveal the 1.7billion ? What's their motive there?
I would assume more SCARE TACTICS Norris :no no

I.E: We're not really worried about you lot continuing to Strike because we've got £1.7 BILLION .... So we're not suffering at all! :cuppa
Martin just said it wasn't supposed to be revealed and Royal Mail are now suing the newspaper. Although not sure why they even told some reporter at the Telegraph that in the first place.
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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post6675 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:24
daveyeff wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:31
a knew they wouldn't agree. they dont want a resolution.
Or is it the union refusing to budge? we are literally kept in the dark about the negotioations
well its in the letter they sent to Royal Mail, the preconditions are set out in there for the strikes to be called off. RM don't want to know. its THEM refusing to budge. they want it all and THEN some.
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Royal mail never going to agree on New entrant same pay and same term and conditions
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Martin Walsh wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:07
There is plenty of media attention and Royal Mail have written to the CWU twice over the last few days asking us to call off the strikes without any pre conditions.

Instead we listed the conditions if Royal Mail agreed would make us consider standing down the strikes. They cover all the main principles of the strike. It is no surprise that they have rejected them but now they will be under pressure from the media especially due to 1.7 billion fund they have and son can afford the deal.

Remember there has to be an agreement in the end and Royal Mail know they cannot introduce their revision plan or their financial recovery plan.
You say they cant introduce their revision plan, but we've been shown our office revision changes which will be starting Jan 16th.So your saying this wont happen ? What is stopping them from doing this?
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Martin Walsh wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:20
Norris they threatened to sue the telegraph for printing the figure.

They have revealed that they can afford the back bay and to change their pans but this is about smashing the union in order to have free reign to lower members terms and conditions.
I keep hearing that they want to destroy the union / smash the union....

How would they achieve that?...

Do they really think members will turn against the union? there's no sign of that. We've all seen how Thompson and co have been behaving. There's zero chance of members giving in or siding with Thompson. Royal Mail are deluded if they think that's going to happen. The offer is so poor that nobody is going to accept it.

Are there other ways Royal Mail are trying to defeat the union? - maybe trying to financially cripple it?
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:24
norris9 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:13
Why did they reveal the 1.7billion ? What's their motive there?
I would assume more SCARE TACTICS Norris :no no

I.E: We're not really worried about you lot continuing to Strike because we've got £1.7 BILLION .... So we're not suffering at all! :cuppa
They haven't actually got 1.7billion it would of been a loan,I actually read the article.
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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norris9 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:27
Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:24
norris9 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:13
Why did they reveal the 1.7billion ? What's their motive there?
I would assume more SCARE TACTICS Norris :no no

I.E: We're not really worried about you lot continuing to Strike because we've got £1.7 BILLION .... So we're not suffering at all! :cuppa
Martin just said it wasn't supposed to be revealed and Royal Mail are now suing the newspaper. Although not sure why they even told some reporter at the Telegraph that in the first place.
they're suing the newspaper? ha, that will be cos they've dropped them in the s**t over their finances.
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Martin Walsh wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:20
Norris they threatened to sue the telegraph for printing the figure.

They have revealed that they can afford the back bay and to change their pans but this is about smashing the union in order to have free reign to lower members terms and conditions.
back bay?...pans?..we are clearly losing our minds! :nana
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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daveyeff wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:31
a knew they wouldn't agree. they dont want a resolution.
Do you have a problem with the letter I ? :arrrghhh
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Trumanity wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:34
Martin Walsh wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:20
Norris they threatened to sue the telegraph for printing the figure.

They have revealed that they can afford the back bay and to change their pans but this is about smashing the union in order to have free reign to lower members terms and conditions.
back bay?...pans?..we are clearly losing our minds! :nana
Think we all know what he mean's ffs.
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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richietns wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:33
Dorset Plodder wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:24
norris9 wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:13
Why did they reveal the 1.7billion ? What's their motive there?
I would assume more SCARE TACTICS Norris :no no

I.E: We're not really worried about you lot continuing to Strike because we've got £1.7 BILLION .... So we're not suffering at all! :cuppa
They haven't actually got 1.7billion it would of been a loan,I actually read the article.


I believe not all would have been a loan. They do have money in the bank covering GLS and Royal Mail if I read it right. Overall they do have access to that amount.
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Trumanity wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:35
daveyeff wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:31
a knew they wouldn't agree. they dont want a resolution.
Do you have a problem with the letter I ? :arrrghhh
What are you some sort of Spelling Facist? People type in haste trying to get their view across they make spelling mistakes .... don't be so pedantic! :cuppa
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Re: Latest update 23,24 strikes go ahead

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Trumanity wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 16:35
daveyeff wrote:
20 Dec 2022, 15:31
a knew they wouldn't agree. they dont want a resolution.
Do you have a problem with the letter I ? :arrrghhh
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