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23/24 December

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lobsterhands
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23/24 December

Post by lobsterhands »

If the strike dates for the above get cancelled ( goodwill gesture or whatever) who’s going to leave the union, obviously we can argue if the strikes have done anything or not but the general feeling I’m getting from mates at work is that their leaving they’ve had enough.Problem is imagine RM without any union, I know they’ve not got the clout they once had but could you possibly imagine it ? Also being such a large union they need every subscription to keep going so say 100’s left that probably would impact them greatly too.
Any thoughts ?
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by Eduardo »

I'd never leave the Union no matter what.
It's not like the Subs are huge and it's the only thing that makes some feral managers back off.

It might not be perfect and some reps might be corrupt but on the whole I will always support it.
It's really nice when you're up sh1t creek for whatever reason that someone tries to help you.

It's still worth it for me.
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scoobydo79
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by scoobydo79 »

lobsterhands wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:33
scoobydo79 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:28
Stop talking sh1t. The strikes are ON!!!
I didn’t say they weren’t you helmet read the question.
But Your supposing they are not. Why ? They are on or have You been told officially otherwise?
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by chickenwittle »

They will only be called off if we get an agreement not for a good will gesture.
broughts
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by broughts »

I left the union earlier this year after lash up with revision and going against our views and the s**t show that was holiday pay have rejoined after changing roles but it’s a personal choice I’m not militant support the strikes but only in union now if I drop a bollock or need representation people who aren’t in the union still get all the same things and deals
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by scoobydo79 »

chickenwittle wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:46
They will only be called off if we get an agreement not for a good will gesture.
Thank You. Sense. Thompson must love it when He sees people on here threatening to leave the union because of something that hasn’t even happened 🙄.
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by lobsterhands »

scoobydo79 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:52
chickenwittle wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:46
They will only be called off if we get an agreement not for a good will gesture.
Thank You. Sense. Thompson must love it when He sees people on here threatening to leave the union because of something that hasn’t even happened 🙄.
Who’s threatened to leave the union you show me anywhere in that question I wrote I’ve threatened to leave the union, just like your last response you did utter bollox, you just make things up .. you little toad.
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by scoobydo79 »

You asked for our thoughts and You got them. What’s the problem?
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by matthew68 »

You need to stay in the union especially with what’s going on at the moment, any manager knows who’s in the union and if you’re in the union they tread carefully with you in my experience and any problems you just threaten them with a union rep and they should it back down. Union power should not be weak and especially at this current moment in time with the crap everywhere at the moment we need to stay strong and together
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by jbo5066 »

Think I read somewhere on here a post from Martin Walsh saying the PEC won't stand the strikes down unless an agreement is made, not just on compulsory redundancies, but other things as well .. As for being a union member, best thing I ever did!! I might leave RM sometime in the future, but while I'm still here, I won't leave the union!
seesred
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by seesred »

I would be very unhappy if the strike dates were cancelled, but I would never think of leaving the union. I've got no interest in goodwill gestures, or playing nicely with someone who wants to destroy what, whether anyone in the wider world realises or cares, is a public service. On a personal level, the union locally has helped me out with certain issues, so I think a degree of loyalty is due. I think anyone who fails to support the union at this time is effectively voting for their own future misery.
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

scoobydo79 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:40
lobsterhands wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:33
scoobydo79 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 09:28
Stop talking sh1t. The strikes are ON!!!
I didn’t say they weren’t you helmet read the question.
But Your supposing they are not. Why ? They are on or have You been told officially otherwise?
Scoobydo79 this is a discussion forum where people discuss stuff, hypothetical or not. If you don't agree with them then discuss it, flame wars are no good for anyone.

Telling people not to discuss stuff on a discussion form goes against the very principle of what forums are about.
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

scoobydo79 wrote:
19 Dec 2022, 10:11
You asked for our thoughts and You got them. What’s the problem?
In essence you told him not to discuss something on a discussion forum. You may disagree with him but you didn't explain, in a respectful way, why.
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by ozcabs »

Mangan won't ever leave the union.
Why would I?
Last edited by ozcabs on 19 Dec 2022, 12:15, edited 2 times in total.
scoobydo79
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Re: 23/24 December

Post by scoobydo79 »

OK My apologies to all especially lobsterhands :thumbup