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So Quiet

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qwerty2
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Re: So Quiet

Post by qwerty2 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:05
CRIBMAD wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 16:51
roadrunner bill wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 16:40

Time to leave this planet... its run by lunatics.. madmen and pyscothpaths
agreed !
If the two of you are starting a crowdfunding page to finance your departure from this planet, I will gladly donate my xmas bonus and my underpin payment.
I will even throw in both my xmas tips.
2 tips thats 2 more than me :thumbdown
grchpo
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Re: So Quiet

Post by grchpo »

Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:48
Flashman_ wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:31
Looks to me that the company have decided that their best bet is to hope that support will collapse when we have to re-ballot for strike action. They have no interest in resolving anything till then. They hope they will be dealt a better hand, and possibly hoping for a rejection of IA. That is why it is imperative we give the fullest support for IA when we are balloted. This fight is far from over so long as we keep our resolve, now is not the time to weaken. In fact I do not see why the union have not already announced new strike dates.
There wont be any more new strike dates for a while so we can recover financially and to use Ward's words ''dont burn ourselves out''
And while we recover so will RM, all backlog cleared & we will have nowhere to go cos we missed our chance before Christmas
Acca Dacca
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Re: So Quiet

Post by Acca Dacca »

grchpo wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:44
Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:48
Flashman_ wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:31
Looks to me that the company have decided that their best bet is to hope that support will collapse when we have to re-ballot for strike action. They have no interest in resolving anything till then. They hope they will be dealt a better hand, and possibly hoping for a rejection of IA. That is why it is imperative we give the fullest support for IA when we are balloted. This fight is far from over so long as we keep our resolve, now is not the time to weaken. In fact I do not see why the union have not already announced new strike dates.
There wont be any more new strike dates for a while so we can recover financially and to use Ward's words ''dont burn ourselves out''
And while we recover so will RM, all backlog cleared & we will have nowhere to go cos we missed our chance before Christmas
I said no new strike dates for a while not that 23rd and 24th wont happen which are before xmas
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
aiden01
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Re: So Quiet

Post by aiden01 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:47
grchpo wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:44
Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:48
Flashman_ wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:31
Looks to me that the company have decided that their best bet is to hope that support will collapse when we have to re-ballot for strike action. They have no interest in resolving anything till then. They hope they will be dealt a better hand, and possibly hoping for a rejection of IA. That is why it is imperative we give the fullest support for IA when we are balloted. This fight is far from over so long as we keep our resolve, now is not the time to weaken. In fact I do not see why the union have not already announced new strike dates.
There wont be any more new strike dates for a while so we can recover financially and to use Ward's words ''dont burn ourselves out''
And while we recover so will RM, all backlog cleared & we will have nowhere to go cos we missed our chance before Christmas
I said no new strike dates for a while not that 23rd and 24th wont happen which are before xmas
So we could'nt break them at xmas an maybe at least wait another 4 to 6 weeks before we strike again so most of us have lost between 13 to 16 days pay for what??.
neviboss
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Re: So Quiet

Post by neviboss »

So we've lost 3 weeks pay, plus S/A, O/T, allowances, etc.will potentially lose half a day's A/L for every 5 strike days and a percentage of our bonus.

Got in debt, stressed to hell.

The board have made us, and the union in particular look 24 karat mugs, they've given us a stick to beat ourselves with.

Changes required by the board are being railroaded through!

No one knows what the answer is.
Acca Dacca
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Re: So Quiet

Post by Acca Dacca »

aiden01 wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 22:31
Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:47
grchpo wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:44
Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:48
Flashman_ wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:31
Looks to me that the company have decided that their best bet is to hope that support will collapse when we have to re-ballot for strike action. They have no interest in resolving anything till then. They hope they will be dealt a better hand, and possibly hoping for a rejection of IA. That is why it is imperative we give the fullest support for IA when we are balloted. This fight is far from over so long as we keep our resolve, now is not the time to weaken. In fact I do not see why the union have not already announced new strike dates.
There wont be any more new strike dates for a while so we can recover financially and to use Ward's words ''dont burn ourselves out''
And while we recover so will RM, all backlog cleared & we will have nowhere to go cos we missed our chance before Christmas
I said no new strike dates for a while not that 23rd and 24th wont happen which are before xmas
So we could'nt break them at xmas an maybe at least wait another 4 to 6 weeks before we strike again so most of us have lost between 13 to 16 days pay for what??.
I’m just saying what I think will happen not what I want to happen

I don’t think there will be any more strikes after Xmas for at least a few weeks of not longer
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
aiden01
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Re: So Quiet

Post by aiden01 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 23:58
aiden01 wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 22:31
Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:47
grchpo wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 19:44
Acca Dacca wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:48
Flashman_ wrote:
16 Dec 2022, 17:31
Looks to me that the company have decided that their best bet is to hope that support will collapse when we have to re-ballot for strike action. They have no interest in resolving anything till then. They hope they will be dealt a better hand, and possibly hoping for a rejection of IA. That is why it is imperative we give the fullest support for IA when we are balloted. This fight is far from over so long as we keep our resolve, now is not the time to weaken. In fact I do not see why the union have not already announced new strike dates.
There wont be any more new strike dates for a while so we can recover financially and to use Ward's words ''dont burn ourselves out''
And while we recover so will RM, all backlog cleared & we will have nowhere to go cos we missed our chance before Christmas
I said no new strike dates for a while not that 23rd and 24th wont happen which are before xmas
So we could'nt break them at xmas an maybe at least wait another 4 to 6 weeks before we strike again so most of us have lost between 13 to 16 days pay for what??.
I’m just saying what I think will happen not what I want to happen

I don’t think there will be any more strikes after Xmas for at least a few weeks of not longer
Thats whay im saying too so 13 to 16 days on strike an no movement an im sure ea will be just pushed through in jan feb so what do we do next personnaly will not give in but what else is there left to do.
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Re: So Quiet

Post by k979aaa »

I don't think this is going away they can get an agreement or have this all again next year while the other competitors invest and gain capacity against Royal Mail. Thing is these other business will invest in staff an recruitment while Royal Mail will get pizza boys to deliver their stuff you can see what will happen Royal Mail zero staff next year.
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Re: So Quiet

Post by walthmstowman »

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priority102
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Re: So Quiet

Post by priority102 »

As I have said before and before, whatever does NOT get agreed / implemented by EA or otherwise will only be on the back burner until the next pay negotiations come round - 18 months if the current proposal goes ahead. It's gonna happen - and if Thompson has gone, the next CEO will do it.

More and more are seeing this now and doing the sensible thing..... :wave