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sindba
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1.7 BILLION??

Wtf?

That's 1,170 million. How? Where's that come from?
antcpfc
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I can’t see them risking that for the ongoing savings. How much is the company worth at todays share price?
Slider tool. Lol.
norris9
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Mr Thompson added: “I am representing the voice of the customers. So is it ‘customers out’ when they say ‘Thompson out’?

You what! You have essentially been providing a 5 day service by purposefully understaffing Royal Mail for 17months+. You still charge people the same for 1st class post, but often it takes 2 or 3 days to arrive, same with 2nd class mail arriving late....

You don't represent the customer at all - you represent lining your pockets whilst mugging off customers.
norris9
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"the company has built up a £1.7bn war chest to defeat the CWU."

nice, so they can afford a 9% pay rise back dated.
Caesar
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antcpfc wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 17:43
I can’t see them risking that for the ongoing savings. How much is the company worth at todays share price?
The question is how much will it be worth if they get the changes that they want.
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Mr Williams said: “What they're saying is that we're threatening 25,000 compulsory redundancies. It is nothing more than a scaremongering tactic going into the next ballot.”
Well, what is your side of this story - how many redundancies are you threatening? Please explain how many people you plan to get rid of and in what timeframe.
Proposed reforms include Royal Mail’s parcel arm switching to hundreds of freelance “owner-driver” postal workers. Until recently, only a quarter of Parcelforce drivers could be self-employed, but the changes will mean this can be lifted to 100pc, for instance.
So sounds like all parcel force workers will be gone and replaced with owner drivers.

We know X amount of people are apparently getting VR.

Customer collection points are going?

Mail centres in the North West are going.

What else?
sindba
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I'm gobsmacked by that "1.7bn to break the strikes" claim.

Either RM are bullshitting or the Torygraph haven't bothered asking basic questions. Or both.

It can't possibly be true. It would be more cost effective to just scrap the changes and give us a big payrise.
Acca Dacca
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They threatened compulsory redundancies 100%

I am actually in a fit of rage at them denying it
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
kazardaimenu
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It’s shitty journalism. It talks about rejection of automation and a straight 9% pay rise but neither of these have been tabled by RM. Also what is ST smoking now?
Duesouth
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"Mr Williams said: “We've now got all the accountants and lawyers on the front line delivering post.”

I can't see professional jobs going out in sub zero blizzards and possibly in the dark just to deliver stuff.

Get real those professions would rather be indoors right beside a computer and a heater.
Schiff
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sindba wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 17:38
1.7 BILLION??

Wtf?

That's 1,170 million. How? Where's that come from?
Well, despite pleading poverty, they can clearly afford to give us an inflation linked pay rise and a decent redundancy package to those who no longer want to work for a modernised Royal Mail.
Clappedoutpostie
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Duesouth wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 18:02
"Mr Williams said: “We've now got all the accountants and lawyers on the front line delivering post.”

I can't see professional jobs going out in sub zero blizzards and possibly in the dark just to deliver stuff.

Get real those professions would rather be indoors right beside a computer and a heater.
Sounds cost effective
Hyrrokkin
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The Telegraph article is clearly a hatchet job against the CWU and us - complete bullshit and lies

1.7B warchest give me a break...utterly pathetic pro RM puff piece pile of s**t
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sindba wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 18:00
I'm gobsmacked by that "1.7bn to break the strikes" claim.

Either RM are bullshitting or the Torygraph haven't bothered asking basic questions. Or both.

It can't possibly be true. It would be more cost effective to just scrap the changes and give us a big payrise.
It's 1.7 billion for modernisation, not to break the CWU ...... "Williams said, the company has built up a £1.7bn war chest to invest in the business as a war of words with the CWU continues."

The Telegraph is anti-union and pro big business so continually puts out misleading clickbait sub-titles and headlines and ignores facts when covenient - eg 9% pay offer.
Acca Dacca
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stevejm wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 20:22
sindba wrote:
15 Dec 2022, 18:00
I'm gobsmacked by that "1.7bn to break the strikes" claim.

Either RM are bullshitting or the Torygraph haven't bothered asking basic questions. Or both.

It can't possibly be true. It would be more cost effective to just scrap the changes and give us a big payrise.
It's 1.7 billion for modernisation, not to break the CWU ...... "Williams said, the company has built up a £1.7bn war chest to invest in the business as a war of words with the CWU continues."

The Telegraph is anti-union and pro big business so continually puts out misleading clickbait sub-titles and headlines and ignores facts when covenient - eg 9% pay offer.
It doesn’t really matter what the 1.7bn is for

The bigger issue is them saying they have it in the first place
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next