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Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
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Seymour Buts
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
If 40 went off in one day I'd be more worried about what's going round? The plague? If this is what has happened, the company will probably take it as unlawful industrial action therefore that's why people are being told they're not being paid.
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ExeterCelt
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
Not unheard off this time of year. Bouts of something like Norovirus could wipe your office out for a week.
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POSTPERSON50
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
Threats of not paying staff for stress related absences have been made. "We will judge each individual absence on it's merits".
If you're ill and feel you can't cope with work, do not go into work with the extra stress of not being paid if you don't.
If you're ill and feel you can't cope with work, do not go into work with the extra stress of not being paid if you don't.
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aiden01
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
If you have a sickline from doc not much they can do.POSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 13:24Threats of not paying staff for stress related absences have been made. "We will judge each individual absence on it's merits".
If you're ill and feel you can't cope with work, do not go into work with the extra stress of not being paid if you don't.
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POSTPERSON50
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
Absolutely because the agreement says all absences are assumed as being genuine.aiden01 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 13:29If you have a sickline from doc not much they can do.POSTPERSON50 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 13:24Threats of not paying staff for stress related absences have been made. "We will judge each individual absence on it's merits".
If you're ill and feel you can't cope with work, do not go into work with the extra stress of not being paid if you don't.
It's just another management tactic.
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dazzler123
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
large delivery office. 9 off Monday on our sector alone. Had my return to work and line manager said they were instructed to make those calls, or they would be sent home themselves. People who were struggling went to union rep and were told to go lie down for a bit. seeing as there was little support it seemed feasible those threats had merit. After all revisions and agreements down the years its hard to know where you stand. it has caused huge grief and resentment this week in a usually productive officeTrueBlueTerrier wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 09:17He hasn't indicated if he works in a Mail Center or a large Delivery office, so definitely possible..
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Seagull1983
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
But surely if you’re Ill your ill and can self cert for 7 days then get a doctors note after that ?
These managers make it up as they go along. As somebody said once ‘they are the equivalent of somebody starting at McDonalds and then becoming manager’.
These managers make it up as they go along. As somebody said once ‘they are the equivalent of somebody starting at McDonalds and then becoming manager’.
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luddite
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
We were told this weeks ago, far as I know everyone who's been sick since has been paid. Just another bullying tactic.
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dazzler123
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
yes, but i and others were told this after 1 day offSeagull1983 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 18:49But surely if you’re Ill your ill and can self cert for 7 days then get a doctors note after that ?
These managers make it up as they go along. As somebody said once ‘they are the equivalent of somebody starting at McDonalds and then becoming manager’.
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aiden01
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
did you go back to work while still feeling ill??dazzler123 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 20:14yes, but i and others were told this after 1 day offSeagull1983 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 18:49But surely if you’re Ill your ill and can self cert for 7 days then get a doctors note after that ?
These managers make it up as they go along. As somebody said once ‘they are the equivalent of somebody starting at McDonalds and then becoming manager’.
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k979aaa
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
Should have gone doctors explained illness and get a fit note dated two weeks forward they are not sick notes now. But fitness to work notes and they can specify when your able to work again you should have done this!
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dazzler123
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
i was over the worst of it, and ok to be in. not the case for others though yesterday and today, there were some grim sights even the managers were uncomfortable with, really felt like a new lowaiden01 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 21:41did you go back to work while still feeling ill??dazzler123 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 20:14yes, but i and others were told this after 1 day offSeagull1983 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 18:49But surely if you’re Ill your ill and can self cert for 7 days then get a doctors note after that ?
These managers make it up as they go along. As somebody said once ‘they are the equivalent of somebody starting at McDonalds and then becoming manager’.
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aiden01
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
Over the worst of it?? hope your not covering yourself by going back a day or two early. honestly can't believe so many in 1 office have fell for the old trick we will stop your pay ballix ....dazzler123 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 23:07i was over the worst of it, and ok to be in. not the case for others though yesterday and today, there were some grim sights even the managers were uncomfortable with, really felt like a new lowaiden01 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 21:41did you go back to work while still feeling ill??dazzler123 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 20:14yes, but i and others were told this after 1 day offSeagull1983 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2022, 18:49But surely if you’re Ill your ill and can self cert for 7 days then get a doctors note after that ?
These managers make it up as they go along. As somebody said once ‘they are the equivalent of somebody starting at McDonalds and then becoming manager’.
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k979aaa
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Re: Threats to those on sick, get in work or no pay
This is the future if we don't make that stand now feel sorry for those involved in this latest incident of BREAKING THE LAW OF THE LAND but we should stand for our rights and call out malpractice for what it is.