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Corey
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Re: Vr

Post by Corey »

lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:48
It’s not been pulled, 10 at our office have been informed they’ve been offered it, just a case of waiting for letter, then cheerio, apparently 31st March not 31st Jan.
I also found out nearly 50% out of an office of 118 office applied for it, doesn’t half show how staff have had enough.
I applied but narrowly missed out,
Can I ask how do you know you only just missed out , what was the criteria used?
norris9
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Re: Vr

Post by norris9 »

kev1967 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 15:43
My manager phoned me today and said I'm second pick to go and names have to be in by the 9th December and 1 going from our office if I was still interested so what makes you say its shelved?
Any ideas how/why people are being picked at your depot? seniority? cheapest to pay off? constantly ill/decrepit?
Ppat98
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Re: Vr

Post by Ppat98 »

My manager said it's based on seniority, others have said the same so need to keep asking what the criteria for being chosen is or ask your own manager.
BigSacks
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Re: Vr

Post by BigSacks »

norris9 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:16
kev1967 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 15:43
My manager phoned me today and said I'm second pick to go and names have to be in by the 9th December and 1 going from our office if I was still interested so what makes you say its shelved?
Any ideas how/why people are being picked at your depot? seniority? cheapest to pay off? constantly ill/decrepit?
It will be done on seniority, there is no other criteria that wouldn’t expose RM to legal action that would halt the process.

They want it done quickly and won’t risk this.
It doesn’t matter to them who goes, just that enough do.
TopperGas
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Re: Vr

Post by TopperGas »

lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:48
It’s not been pulled, 10 at our office have been informed they’ve been offered it, just a case of waiting for letter, then cheerio, apparently 31st March not 31st Jan.
I also found out nearly 50% out of an office of 118 office applied for it, doesn’t half show how staff have had enough.
I applied but narrowly missed out,
Don't you realise that the letters will never arrive?
Deadly
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Re: Vr

Post by Deadly »

lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:55
Deadly wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:53
lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:48
It’s not been pulled, 10 at our office have been informed they’ve been offered it, just a case of waiting for letter, then cheerio, apparently 31st March not 31st Jan.
I also found out nearly 50% out of an office of 118 office applied for it, doesn’t half show how staff have had enough.
I applied but narrowly missed out,
10 in an office of how many?
Already stated 118
Ah ok, I thought that was another office.
qwerty2
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Re: Vr

Post by qwerty2 »

BigSacks wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:27
norris9 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:16
kev1967 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 15:43
My manager phoned me today and said I'm second pick to go and names have to be in by the 9th December and 1 going from our office if I was still interested so what makes you say its shelved?
Any ideas how/why people are being picked at your depot? seniority? cheapest to pay off? constantly ill/decrepit?
It will be done on seniority, there is no other criteria that wouldn’t expose RM to legal action that would halt the process.

They want it done quickly and won’t risk this.
It doesn’t matter to them who goes, just that enough do.
So CR is off also? and non drivers?
BigSacks
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Re: Vr

Post by BigSacks »

qwerty2 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:52
BigSacks wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:27
norris9 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:16
kev1967 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 15:43
My manager phoned me today and said I'm second pick to go and names have to be in by the 9th December and 1 going from our office if I was still interested so what makes you say its shelved?
Any ideas how/why people are being picked at your depot? seniority? cheapest to pay off? constantly ill/decrepit?
It will be done on seniority, there is no other criteria that wouldn’t expose RM to legal action that would halt the process.

They want it done quickly and won’t risk this.
It doesn’t matter to them who goes, just that enough do.
So CR is off also? and non drivers?
CR is completely different from this exercise.
Driving capability was mentioned in the company documentation but for this preference exercise alone, currently seniority is the only “known” criteria.
bigal383
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Vr

Post by bigal383 »

Not done on senority my place non drivers and no senior men got it all those age 55 and over most prob know dead wood
BigSacks
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Re: Vr

Post by BigSacks »

bigal383 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 19:01
Not done on senority my place non drivers and no senior men got it all those age 55 and over most prob know dead wood
If this is true and those you mention did actually complete the preference properly and either didn’t make a mistake or are just giving it the big ‘un in the office then I would expect a challenge and the process to be, at minimum, paused.
lobsterhands
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Re: Vr

Post by lobsterhands »

postieblueshirt wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:57
lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:55
Deadly wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:53
lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:48
It’s not been pulled, 10 at our office have been informed they’ve been offered it, just a case of waiting for letter, then cheerio, apparently 31st March not 31st Jan.
I also found out nearly 50% out of an office of 118 office applied for it, doesn’t half show how staff have had enough.
I applied but narrowly missed out,
10 in an office of how many?
Already stated 118
were these all non drivers?
It went on seniority
lobsterhands
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Re: Vr

Post by lobsterhands »

Corey wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 17:10
lobsterhands wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 16:48
It’s not been pulled, 10 at our office have been informed they’ve been offered it, just a case of waiting for letter, then cheerio, apparently 31st March not 31st Jan.
I also found out nearly 50% out of an office of 118 office applied for it, doesn’t half show how staff have had enough.
I applied but narrowly missed out,
Can I ask how do you know you only just missed out , what was the criteria used?
He had a list with names on it, he wasn’t allowed to tell me who was on the list but that unfortunately I was close to the 10. This morning people ( with seniority were going in to Coms office ) to initially be told.
lobsterhands
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Re: Vr

Post by lobsterhands »

BigSacks wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:27
norris9 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 18:16
kev1967 wrote:
07 Dec 2022, 15:43
My manager phoned me today and said I'm second pick to go and names have to be in by the 9th December and 1 going from our office if I was still interested so what makes you say its shelved?
Any ideas how/why people are being picked at your depot? seniority? cheapest to pay off? constantly ill/decrepit?
It will be done on seniority, there is no other criteria that wouldn’t expose RM to legal action that would halt the process.

They want it done quickly and won’t risk this.
It doesn’t matter to them who goes, just that enough do.
At our office it has been done on seniority
antcpfc
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Re: Vr

Post by antcpfc »

Our office has been told nothing yet.
Slider tool. Lol.
NWpostie
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Re: Vr

Post by NWpostie »

I've never bothered as I have no plans to jump ship, I will however say good luck to you guys and hope you know what you're doing and have a job ready to go to.
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