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LaggyBand
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Re: Dear union

Post by LaggyBand »

FilthyBloke wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 18:38
Iv already said I won’t be going on any more strikes after this Thursday and Friday.
Iv had lots of abuse because of it already, people refusing to work with me (even though I have/will do the 4 originally planned) and the odd comment.
But I don’t actually care. My wife is seriously ill and cannot work and I have 3 young children to feed and bills to pay (ever increasing to pay - even more when the energy caps go up next month) and my priority will always be my family.
We have no family near us to support us and I refuse to put my children’s well being and our house on the line.
Interestingly I went to the picket line last week and they all said “ooh you think you can’t afford to go on strike but you certainly can’t afford not to...” yet they are all in their 60s, houses paid off and no kids to look after.
So I’ll hope for a decent negotiation but if not my decision has been made.
Young family man myself, just do what I do, go down to the picket line for a few hours, spend the rest of the day with your family, keep a tally of the days you’ve lost in pay, take on a little more debt, and promise to yourself that next year I have to work X amount of days off, to be even stevens. No biggie.
sindba
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Re: Dear union

Post by sindba »

LaggyBand wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 21:51
FilthyBloke wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 18:38
Iv already said I won’t be going on any more strikes after this Thursday and Friday.
Iv had lots of abuse because of it already, people refusing to work with me (even though I have/will do the 4 originally planned) and the odd comment.
But I don’t actually care. My wife is seriously ill and cannot work and I have 3 young children to feed and bills to pay (ever increasing to pay - even more when the energy caps go up next month) and my priority will always be my family.
We have no family near us to support us and I refuse to put my children’s well being and our house on the line.
Interestingly I went to the picket line last week and they all said “ooh you think you can’t afford to go on strike but you certainly can’t afford not to...” yet they are all in their 60s, houses paid off and no kids to look after.
So I’ll hope for a decent negotiation but if not my decision has been made.
Young family man myself, just do what I do, go down to the picket line for a few hours, spend the rest of the day with your family, keep a tally of the days you’ve lost in pay, take on a little more debt, and promise to yourself that next year I have to work X amount of days off, to be even stevens. No biggie.
Or just pick up overtime to make up for it. Day off, or an hour extra a day, and you're even.

I'm not doing it personally, but I understand why some do. It's better than crossing the line after all.
aiden01
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Re: Dear union

Post by aiden01 »

LaggyBand wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 21:48
Woody Guthrie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 15:55
We can't have a thread on here now without you popping up and derailing it with the same old same old... and stop private messaging me with your lies and bullshit.
Come on what did he say? I’m dying to know
Well mine was just his usual crap ffs
Cedar_Room
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Re: Dear union

Post by Cedar_Room »

Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 17:13
Please put him on ignore Schiff

Click on his profile and click 'add foe'
Done. Thanks. Absolutely sick of his shite
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”
Cedar_Room
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Re: Dear union

Post by Cedar_Room »

ProudhonPJ wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:18
aiden01 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:13
Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:00
Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
Was just going to post something similar why does everybody not put him on ignore an maybe just maybe he will take the hint :thumbup :thumbup
Ha, ditto! Thing is though he's now sent me a private message - watch out for this. And he still seems to think it's all because he has a different opinion.
PM’d me ages ago with loads of verbal abuse. I didn’t respond as I was genuinely worried for his MH!

Anyway,he’s on ignore now. Good riddance
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”
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Re: Dear union

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CABANA83
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Re: Dear union

Post by CABANA83 »

FilthyBloke wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 18:38
Iv already said I won’t be going on any more strikes after this Thursday and Friday.
Iv had lots of abuse because of it already, people refusing to work with me (even though I have/will do the 4 originally planned) and the odd comment.
But I don’t actually care. My wife is seriously ill and cannot work and I have 3 young children to feed and bills to pay (ever increasing to pay - even more when the energy caps go up next month) and my priority will always be my family.
We have no family near us to support us and I refuse to put my children’s well being and our house on the line.
Interestingly I went to the picket line last week and they all said “ooh you think you can’t afford to go on strike but you certainly can’t afford not to...” yet they are all in their 60s, houses paid off and no kids to look after.
So I’ll hope for a decent negotiation but if not my decision has been made.
Trust me there is a lot of us in similar if not worse positions. We knew these strikes were coming. Could you have not worked four of your days off to make up the loss? As I've told people at work, if you're really going to struggle and your rdo doesn't fall on a strike day, work it that week and think of it as a swap of rdo. Kids are back in school this week, so hopefully its easier for you to do that

Absolutely your children's well-being are your priority but don't put yourself in a position where you'll dread coming in to work, maybe even more than you already do
LaggyBand
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Re: Dear union

Post by LaggyBand »

CABANA83 wrote:
05 Sep 2022, 08:17
FilthyBloke wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 18:38
Iv already said I won’t be going on any more strikes after this Thursday and Friday.
Iv had lots of abuse because of it already, people refusing to work with me (even though I have/will do the 4 originally planned) and the odd comment.
But I don’t actually care. My wife is seriously ill and cannot work and I have 3 young children to feed and bills to pay (ever increasing to pay - even more when the energy caps go up next month) and my priority will always be my family.
We have no family near us to support us and I refuse to put my children’s well being and our house on the line.
Interestingly I went to the picket line last week and they all said “ooh you think you can’t afford to go on strike but you certainly can’t afford not to...” yet they are all in their 60s, houses paid off and no kids to look after.
So I’ll hope for a decent negotiation but if not my decision has been made.
Trust me there is a lot of us in similar if not worse positions. We knew these strikes were coming. Could you have not worked four of your days off to make up the loss? As I've told people at work, if you're really going to struggle and your rdo doesn't fall on a strike day, work it that week and think of it as a swap of rdo. Kids are back in school this week, so hopefully its easier for you to do that

Absolutely your children's well-being are your priority but don't put yourself in a position where you'll dread coming in to work, maybe even more than you already do
That’s a really good point, imagine having to be the “strike breaker” forever? A bloke at ours moved from another office cos it was so bad there. He’s on strike this time. But the point is he “spoilt” his old office so that he could keep his holiday, sky sports subscription, and his takeaways.
Pidleypoo
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Re: Dear union

Post by Pidleypoo »

FilthyBloke wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 18:38
Iv already said I won’t be going on any more strikes after this Thursday and Friday.
Iv had lots of abuse because of it already, people refusing to work with me (even though I have/will do the 4 originally planned) and the odd comment.
But I don’t actually care. My wife is seriously ill and cannot work and I have 3 young children to feed and bills to pay (ever increasing to pay - even more when the energy caps go up next month) and my priority will always be my family.
We have no family near us to support us and I refuse to put my children’s well being and our house on the line.
Interestingly I went to the picket line last week and they all said “ooh you think you can’t afford to go on strike but you certainly can’t afford not to...” yet they are all in their 60s, houses paid off and no kids to look after.
So I’ll hope for a decent negotiation but if not my decision has been made.
If Royal Mail get their way , you won’t be seeing your kids and the pay offer will mean you’ll be taking a massive pay cut.

I’m in the same boat but have to manage my own chronic illness but I’ll be in strike as long as needed.
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Dear union

Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

:Applause :Applause
Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:25
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:56
Frankie15 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:48
But yet you still refuse to stand side by side with your colleagues to stop the above from happening!!! :d'oh!
No, im genuinely scared of losing big contracts and having no job at all when its getting rather scary out there bill wise. Id sooner have a crap job than no job.
You don't think that the board will, in reality, be equally scared of losing big contracts and the company ging under? If that happpens then they will have massively failed the shareholders that they are employed to protect and ensure that they get a good return from their investment.

At the moment there are more job vacancies than job seekers. If you are happy to have a crap job then there are already plenty of such vacancies. I want to keep this a decent job with decent wages and decent terms and conditions. I am prepared to fight for that. If RM goes under as a result then so be it.

I am confident that I can very easily get another job if it came to it. You claim to have worked in other jobs, so you should also be confident in yourself that you won't simply be out of work. You come across as someone who is seriously risk averse - someone who won't fight for anything at all in case you end up on the losing side. The problem with that attitude is that you are aslo likely to achieve very little if you aren't prepared to take a risk.

Thankfully most people aren't like you. They are prepared to fight for things that matter to them. You, on the other hand, will simply accept whatever you are offered and be grateful for it. You really are an employers dream.
:Applause :Applause :Applause

Agree completely....
If we fail at least we say we tried.....
Without this resolve we would all be on minimum wage or zero hour contracts by now....
However the company looks after this dispute sometimes our only option in to stand up and be counted.
2yearpostie
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Re: Dear union

Post by 2yearpostie »

Cedar_Room wrote:
05 Sep 2022, 06:59
ProudhonPJ wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:18
aiden01 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:13
Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:00
Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
Was just going to post something similar why does everybody not put him on ignore an maybe just maybe he will take the hint :thumbup :thumbup
Ha, ditto! Thing is though he's now sent me a private message - watch out for this. And he still seems to think it's all because he has a different opinion.
PM’d me ages ago with loads of verbal abuse. I didn’t respond as I was genuinely worried for his MH!

Anyway,he’s on ignore now. Good riddance
Check my sent folder, nothing was sent to you by me.