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Seasonal variation of hours

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hero22
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Seasonal variation of hours

Post by hero22 »

We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.

Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
Smoothbackground
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Yes, it is true - there is something about it elsewhere on this site.
JKSmudge
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Mickeybrowneyes
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Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

hero22 wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 10:49
We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.

Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.
Mickeybrowneyes
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Has the trial started yet and if so how is it going?
Acca Dacca
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

Post by Acca Dacca »

Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 14:03
hero22 wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 10:49
We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.

Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.
Didnt we start on the winter long hours though when this was brought in?

So we have did longer winter 2023 and then got the shorter summer 2024 in return, then we did another longer winter 2024 and now we arent getting the short summer in return no? I could be wrong but Iam fairly sure we have all did 2 longer hour winter periods and only 1 short hour period since this was introduced.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
A2B
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 15:37
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 14:03
hero22 wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 10:49
We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.

Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.
Didnt we start on the winter long hours though when this was brought in?

So we have did longer winter 2023 and then got the shorter summer 2024 in return, then we did another longer winter 2024 and now we arent getting the short summer in return no? I could be wrong but Iam fairly sure we have all did 2 longer hour winter periods and only 1 short hour period since this was introduced.
I thought the same but could be wrong :d'oh!
Acca Dacca
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A2B wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 15:45
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 15:37
Mickeybrowneyes wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 14:03
hero22 wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 10:49
We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.

Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.
Didnt we start on the winter long hours though when this was brought in?

So we have did longer winter 2023 and then got the shorter summer 2024 in return, then we did another longer winter 2024 and now we arent getting the short summer in return no? I could be wrong but Iam fairly sure we have all did 2 longer hour winter periods and only 1 short hour period since this was introduced.
I thought the same but could be wrong :d'oh!
I remember at the time thinking they should have waited till the following summer to start it after the new tax year begun rather than starting it halfway through and us owing them back in the winter rather than the other way around

It looks like those of us who worked winter 2023 or started the job just before winter 2024 are losing out on owed time here - unless its going back on our annual leave or paid.

Can Martin Walsh please explain perhaps whats what.
Last edited by Acca Dacca on 15 Apr 2025, 15:52, edited 1 time in total.
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alnwickist69
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

Post by alnwickist69 »

Definitely owed hours.It was originally brought in before Xmas peak
Mickeybrowneyes
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Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

I think it was equalised because we had a shorter period on the longer weeks back end of last year.
matrix123
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So are we just back to normal hours now? Say 35 hour contract for example, 6.30-1.30? What's happening. It's not clear
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

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Seasonal variations have been suspended for the whole of the year so your normal hours of attendance will remain through summer and peak.
ArthurPewty
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Post by ArthurPewty »

So, if we did long hours Dec 2023 & Dec 24 and short hours Summer 2024 then what the hell are OUR union playing at!!
Absolute BARE MINIMUM they should have agreed to is us all being paid the hours owed from Dec 2024 if RM want to 'suspend' this :d'oh! (They should have only agreed to dropping this summer variation on condition of full payment of hours owed PLUS some sort of bonus payment for helping RM out!
I've stuck with the CWU against my better judgement throughout as I think they are a safety net if the company ever try to take the p**s on a disciplinary anytime, but this is just about the last straw
matrix123
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

Post by matrix123 »

Thank you, wish the offices/union would get communication out and put up in offices, and confirm this for everyone to know and see so it's simple and clear.
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours

Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

matrix123 wrote:
15 Apr 2025, 16:13
Thank you, wish the offices/union would get communication out and put up in offices, and confirm this for everyone to know and see so it's simple and clear.
I'm sure the period at the shorter weeks in the summer went on for way longer than the shorter period at peak last year.
I think it's been equalised.
All been squared up to now.