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Seasonal variation of hours
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hero22
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Seasonal variation of hours
We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.
Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
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Smoothbackground
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Yes, it is true - there is something about it elsewhere on this site.
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JKSmudge
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Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.hero22 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 10:49We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.
Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
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Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Has the trial started yet and if so how is it going?
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Didnt we start on the winter long hours though when this was brought in?Mickeybrowneyes wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 14:03It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.hero22 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 10:49We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.
Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
So we have did longer winter 2023 and then got the shorter summer 2024 in return, then we did another longer winter 2024 and now we arent getting the short summer in return no? I could be wrong but Iam fairly sure we have all did 2 longer hour winter periods and only 1 short hour period since this was introduced.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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A2B
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
I thought the same but could be wrongAcca Dacca wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 15:37Didnt we start on the winter long hours though when this was brought in?Mickeybrowneyes wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 14:03It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.hero22 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 10:49We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.
Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
So we have did longer winter 2023 and then got the shorter summer 2024 in return, then we did another longer winter 2024 and now we arent getting the short summer in return no? I could be wrong but Iam fairly sure we have all did 2 longer hour winter periods and only 1 short hour period since this was introduced.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
I remember at the time thinking they should have waited till the following summer to start it after the new tax year begun rather than starting it halfway through and us owing them back in the winter rather than the other way aroundA2B wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 15:45I thought the same but could be wrongAcca Dacca wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 15:37Didnt we start on the winter long hours though when this was brought in?Mickeybrowneyes wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 14:03It was five weeks less hours and five weeks more hours and they haven't happend yet so you aren't owed any hours.hero22 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2025, 10:49We were told this morning that the variation in seasonal hours is ending immediately. We are one of the trial offices.
Any other offices get told this yet ? Many asking are we not still owed hours then but union and management had no reply really and just said it would work itself out.
So we have did longer winter 2023 and then got the shorter summer 2024 in return, then we did another longer winter 2024 and now we arent getting the short summer in return no? I could be wrong but Iam fairly sure we have all did 2 longer hour winter periods and only 1 short hour period since this was introduced.![]()
It looks like those of us who worked winter 2023 or started the job just before winter 2024 are losing out on owed time here - unless its going back on our annual leave or paid.
Can Martin Walsh please explain perhaps whats what.
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If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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alnwickist69
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Definitely owed hours.It was originally brought in before Xmas peak
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Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
I think it was equalised because we had a shorter period on the longer weeks back end of last year.
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matrix123
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
So are we just back to normal hours now? Say 35 hour contract for example, 6.30-1.30? What's happening. It's not clear
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Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Seasonal variations have been suspended for the whole of the year so your normal hours of attendance will remain through summer and peak.
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ArthurPewty
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
So, if we did long hours Dec 2023 & Dec 24 and short hours Summer 2024 then what the hell are OUR union playing at!!
Absolute BARE MINIMUM they should have agreed to is us all being paid the hours owed from Dec 2024 if RM want to 'suspend' this
(They should have only agreed to dropping this summer variation on condition of full payment of hours owed PLUS some sort of bonus payment for helping RM out!
I've stuck with the CWU against my better judgement throughout as I think they are a safety net if the company ever try to take the p**s on a disciplinary anytime, but this is just about the last straw
Absolute BARE MINIMUM they should have agreed to is us all being paid the hours owed from Dec 2024 if RM want to 'suspend' this
I've stuck with the CWU against my better judgement throughout as I think they are a safety net if the company ever try to take the p**s on a disciplinary anytime, but this is just about the last straw
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matrix123
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
Thank you, wish the offices/union would get communication out and put up in offices, and confirm this for everyone to know and see so it's simple and clear.
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Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Seasonal variation of hours
I'm sure the period at the shorter weeks in the summer went on for way longer than the shorter period at peak last year.
I think it's been equalised.
All been squared up to now.