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The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat
dakka86
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by dakka86 »

Bloody hell I knew it would be a bad deal but it’s actually even worse than I thought it was going to be
nutcracker
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by nutcracker »

Hell no! WT actual F is that turd :speak to the hand
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Beanyjazz wrote:
23 Nov 2023, 08:35
'Look at me Mummy, I made £25, and it only cost me 1 knee'. Get a life.
scoobymunster
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by scoobymunster »

I like how they worded the new sick pay policy. There's no SSP for first 3 days, first few days after first occasion will be on no pay! It'll be fun at Christmas, all the bugs going will be in the office! There's no more requirement for pre 7am starts so start times will be pushed back next round of negotiations also!
rambo1
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

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mjd24 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:46
The 2% for last year- when were we given that and will it be back dated?
We've already been getting it!
Chitchat
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by Chitchat »

Is the profit sharing linked to the whole group or just royal mail? Because royalmail isn't making anyprofits!
needadvice
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Re: The deal.

Post by needadvice »

Splappy_McSplap wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 11:58
10% over 3 years is a 3.33% pay rise.

Inflation over the last 12 months was over 10%.

This amounts to a pay cut.

Tesco got 7% and Asda gave their staff 10%.

Barristers got 15%.

We are being offered 3.33%.

My mortgage will be going up once my deal ends by almost 4 times what this payrise will bring in extra every month. That won't even begin to touch the increased price of food, or petrol, or electricity.

It is going to be a no from me.
Not forgetting Aldi. Almost £13 an hour now
Nickvilla20
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by Nickvilla20 »

mjd24 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:55
2% from April 2022 was actually rolled out in our pay from September 2022 with no back payment?

Am i correct?

So its NOT a 2% pay rise from April 2022 at all.

2% over the year would have been about £500, so we’ve missed out on about £200.
I remember getting a lump sum in June before they gave us the pay rise.
mjd24
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by mjd24 »

rambo1 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:59
mjd24 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:46
The 2% for last year- when were we given that and will it be back dated?
We've already been getting it!
Yes but not from April 2022, seems like it started in September 2022.
needadvice
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Re: The deal.

Post by needadvice »

CamPostie wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:22
LouBarlow wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:08
Not choosing the 1500 was a mistake. I can see them losing a lot of votes with the £500 lump sum.
That’s certainly interesting.

I thought they’d come up with the two options to create a three way ballot, making it harder for a ‘no’ vote to be returned.
Maybe RM want a No vote for some twisted agenda. CWU fell for it
Thegrinch
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by Thegrinch »

No from me..
mjd24
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by mjd24 »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 13:01
mjd24 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:55
2% from April 2022 was actually rolled out in our pay from September 2022 with no back payment?

Am i correct?

So its NOT a 2% pay rise from April 2022 at all.

2% over the year would have been about £500, so we’ve missed out on about £200.
I remember getting a lump sum in June before they gave us the pay rise.
Oh ok, yes that rings a bell. My memory is terrible!
rambo1
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by rambo1 »

mjd24 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 13:01
rambo1 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:59
mjd24 wrote:
21 Apr 2023, 12:46
The 2% for last year- when were we given that and will it be back dated?
We've already been getting it!
Yes but not from April 2022, seems like it started in September 2022.
No, we got it backdated from April 22. You've already had it mate.
CRIBMAD
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by CRIBMAD »

lets make it a MASSIVE no vote so they have to get round the table again and if they dont fook the job ! accept this turd deal and your job will not be worth doing in the future !
needadvice
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by needadvice »

Job security ONLY until April 2025

Meanwhile, they have agreed to work on an agreement on other elements of the deal in the near future. This is a very loose agreement and is wide open for RM to exploit its workforce
rambo1
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Re: The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

Post by rambo1 »

Why on earth has the Union agreed to £500 lump sum when they were offered the option of £1500 with the same 8% pay rise over 2yrs? Are they bloody thick or what? They sound it and are now showing it!!