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Flexi Hours

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The Postman
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Re: Flexi Hours

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How is it going to be balanced when someone leaves the business? You owe us x amount as you only worked through the summer this year or we owe you x amount as you worked the winter for us?
pieoftheday
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Re: Flexi Hours

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Just seems unworkable to me, with many people being moved to different deliveries on a daily basis etc, managers won't be able to keep track an no one in their right mind would trust what's input on to the managers compooter
redlen
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Re: Flexi Hours

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The Postman wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
How is it going to be balanced when someone leaves the business? You owe us x amount as you only worked through the summer this year or we owe you x amount as you worked the winter for us?
They will take it out of your final weeks salary or any outstanding annual leave
pieoftheday
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Re: Flexi Hours

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How will annual leave work? Aweek off in summer now uses 37 hrs,full time. With flex would it automatically be 35? And would those 2 hrs be automatically be put into winter leave? A silly question on the face of it, but hey its RM
redlen
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Re: Flexi Hours

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Annual Leave is calculated on contracted hours. That does not change with flexi time
pieoftheday
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Re: Flexi Hours

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 14:04
Annual Leave is calculated on contracted hours. That does not change with flexi time
As I say ,a silly question on the face of it ,but everything I hear from.RM now has to be taken with much salt.
Foxel
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Re: Flexi Hours

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pieoftheday wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:50
How will annual leave work? Aweek off in summer now uses 37 hrs,full time. With flex would it automatically be 35? And would those 2 hrs be automatically be put into winter leave? A silly question on the face of it, but hey its RM
In my mind you are penalised for taking time off in summer.
I'm turning purple!
Foxel
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Re: Flexi Hours

Post by Foxel »

The Postman wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
How is it going to be balanced when someone leaves the business? You owe us x amount as you only worked through the summer this year or we owe you x amount as you worked the winter for us?
It sounds like you'll always owe them if it's done as described, so you could leave and your last paycheck could be decimated.
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Foxel
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Re: Flexi Hours

Post by Foxel »

Final thing,
It'll reduce lapsing
How? Thought the extra time was to deal with season pressure.
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Zicomurphy
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Re: Flexi Hours

Post by Zicomurphy »

Foxel wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:29
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:50
How will annual leave work? Aweek off in summer now uses 37 hrs,full time. With flex would it automatically be 35? And would those 2 hrs be automatically be put into winter leave? A silly question on the face of it, but hey its RM
In my mind you are penalised for taking time off in summer.
How are you penalised?

Take a weeks leave in summer when you are working 35 hour weeks you use 35 hours of your A/L

Take a weeks leave during peak period when you work 39 hour weeks you use 39 hours of your A/L

Take a weeks leaves during the remaining 6 months when you work 37 hour weeks you use 37 hours of your A/l.
pieoftheday
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Re: Flexi Hours

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Zicomurphy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:36
Foxel wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:29
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 13:50
How will annual leave work? Aweek off in summer now uses 37 hrs,full time. With flex would it automatically be 35? And would those 2 hrs be automatically be put into winter leave? A silly question on the face of it, but hey its RM
In my mind you are penalised for taking time off in summer.
How are you penalised?

Take a weeks leave in summer when you are working 35 hour weeks you use 35 hours of your A/L

Take a weeks leave during peak period when you work 39 hour weeks you use 39 hours of your A/L

Take a weeks leaves during the remaining 6 months when you work 37 hour weeks you use 37 hours of your A/l.
Yeah sounds simple doesn't it, I don't trust RM
flimflamman
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Re: Flexi Hours

Post by flimflamman »

Foxel wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 17:46
rambo1 wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 15:54
Then that would be time for IA.
The time is now, as that is part of their proposal. We've already been told to stay out and complete, when there is an OT ban on.
Nobody is TOLD to do anything in this company you are asked if you want to complete,it's your choice yes or no,don't let any manager make their problem your problem
pieoftheday
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Re: Flexi Hours

Post by pieoftheday »

Foxel wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:32
Final thing,
It'll reduce lapsing
How? Thought the extra time was to deal with season pressure.
Lapsing at ours is no longer lapsing it's part of the duty. More of the duty.'proper' gets left or brought back now