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DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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rambo1
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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heraldmoth wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:24
rambo1 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 08:07
heraldmoth wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 21:47
And how do you keep track of annualised hours? Trust management when they say “right u owe me 50 hours over the next 2 months” or go back to the dry lunch of a union and complain?
You have set hrs for summer and winter a bit like you do for Tuesday and Wednesday now. You don't lose track of what hrs you work during a normal week now do you?
Literally have to go in every Wednesday cos my overtime from the previous week is wrong much rather just no overtime
Kept doing that to me a few yrs ago. So I said, one way to stop you taking the overtime off me. I'll stop doing it.
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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rambo1 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:28
heraldmoth wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 15:24
rambo1 wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 08:07
heraldmoth wrote:
06 Apr 2023, 21:47
And how do you keep track of annualised hours? Trust management when they say “right u owe me 50 hours over the next 2 months” or go back to the dry lunch of a union and complain?
You have set hrs for summer and winter a bit like you do for Tuesday and Wednesday now. You don't lose track of what hrs you work during a normal week now do you?
Literally have to go in every Wednesday cos my overtime from the previous week is wrong much rather just no overtime
Kept doing that to me a few yrs ago. So I said, one way to stop you taking the overtime off me. I'll stop doing it.
It’s not being done out of malice which is kinda my point shows how difficult it will be though and I’ll agree ideally I don’t really want the hassle of dribs and drabs of OT to keep track of never mind “flexing”
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:39
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
We are signed in at the same time! This will blow peoples minds.
Well,you will be. Two sock puppet accounts,I thought that had been established weeks ago?

Filthy Len :left:
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
Yea, and any minute now, we'll all get that Christmas eve sacking you guaranteed us.
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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Halfhappy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:59
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
Yea, and any minute now, we'll all get that Christmas eve sacking you guaranteed us.
Suggest you link where I said that or either grow up or STFU
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:05
Halfhappy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:59
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
Yea, and any minute now, we'll all get that Christmas eve sacking you guaranteed us.
Suggest you link where I said that or either grow up or STFU
Don’t rise it to Filthy Len. You are a valued member of this site,your input is appreciated by us all. If anyone says you’re just a banter account,you be sure to send them my way! :left:
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:05
Halfhappy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:59
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
Yea, and any minute now, we'll all get that Christmas eve sacking you guaranteed us.
Suggest you link where I said that or either grow up or STFU
We're all still waiting. You promised us!
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

Post by Cedar_Room »

Halfhappy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:09
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:05
Halfhappy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:59
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
Yea, and any minute now, we'll all get that Christmas eve sacking you guaranteed us.
Suggest you link where I said that or either grow up or STFU
We're all still waiting. You promised us!
Come on Filthy Len! Don’t let us down! :left:
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redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:05
Halfhappy wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:59
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 11:35
In reality there is nothing stopping Royal Mail imposing non contractual changes through executive action.They no longer recognize the concept of collective bargaining.

The CWU have nothing left to object with, they will not even call the members out
Yea, and any minute now, we'll all get that Christmas eve sacking you guaranteed us.
Suggest you link where I said that or either grow up or STFU
Well you did say this
redlen wrote:
22 Dec 2022, 14:17
But if you strike without those legal protections in place, any dismissal will be automatically fair.

We have the CWU in a release into the public domain actively encouraging its members to break the law.

Royal Mail legal department will have an absolute field day with this
and this
This post is admitting you will be in breach of your contract of employment for striking on the 24 December.

Taking strike action on the 24 December will mean you are in breach of your contract of employment and subject to the disciplinary process.

Why is that, people are really worried about this development that has been festering now for a month with no response?

How about two year suspended dismissal as an example as an altrnative with the displinary process for breach of contract. Imagine having that hanging over your head for two years?

And people will be naive to think people are not going to be targeted over this strike action, especially reps with future erroneous conduct action for trivial transgressions.

Naive indeed
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

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And do tell me where I said will result in mass sackings?

So kindly refrain from putting words into my mouth and making things up to suit your own agenda.
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

Post by Acca Dacca »

redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:17
And do tell me where I said will result in mass sackings?

So kindly refrain from putting words into my mouth and making things up to suit your own agenda.
I didnt put words in your mouth. I posted what you said. Literally your words. :chuckle
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

Post by Cedar_Room »

redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:17
And do tell me where I said will result in mass sackings?

So kindly refrain from putting words into my mouth and making things up to suit your own agenda.
BANTER ACCOUNT :left:

You tell ‘um Filthy Len! :left:
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Re: DAVE WARD STOP THE FLANNEL

Post by redlen »

Acca Dacca wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:20
redlen wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:17
And do tell me where I said will result in mass sackings?

So kindly refrain from putting words into my mouth and making things up to suit your own agenda.
I didnt put words in your mouth. I posted what you said. Literally your words. :chuckle

And where is the link requested stating will result in mass sackings allegedly from me that you seem to have omitted?