Build the No Vote campaign

[77SAMPOST77]

Massive NO from me…….

Please explain what a massive NO is does it get you a higher vote than my simple yes.

Simple being the operative word for you aiden .

We all now it means a definite no .

[daveyeff]

i think everybody...every last one of us KNOWS the deal is absolute shite. even the ones who are going to vote yes. the big debate about it all is, ''its the best they could get'' ....''if we vote no, everything is out the window'' ....''the company WILL go into administration'' ....''the company will bulldoze everything in'' . i totally understand what is being said, but its still a no from me. they had us out for 18 days for just about everything they are now agreeing to. imo the CWU leadership should be fall on their swords, and whatever happens after that, happens,.....it is what it is.

[Burghboy]

i think everybody...every last one of us KNOWS the deal is absolute shite. even the ones who are going to vote yes. the big debate about it all is, ''its the best they could get'' ....''if we vote no, everything is out the window'' ....''the company WILL go into administration'' ....''the company will bulldoze everything in'' . i totally understand what is being said, but its still a no from me. they had us out for 18 days for just about everything they are now agreeing to. imo the CWU leadership should be fall on their swords, and whatever happens after that, happens,.....it is what it is.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest we will go into admin, the financial statement last week when the release horrendous loses says the company has sufficient cash flow and is also asset rich. And that’s before we even look at GLS, which the Govt will force cross funding before it ever contemplates a rescue package/re nationalisation.

[daveyeff]

i think everybody...every last one of us KNOWS the deal is absolute shite. even the ones who are going to vote yes. the big debate about it all is, ''its the best they could get'' ....''if we vote no, everything is out the window'' ....''the company WILL go into administration'' ....''the company will bulldoze everything in'' . i totally understand what is being said, but its still a no from me. they had us out for 18 days for just about everything they are now agreeing to. imo the CWU leadership should be fall on their swords, and whatever happens after that, happens,.....it is what it is.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest we will go into admin, the financial statement last week when the release horrendous loses says the company has sufficient cash flow and is also asset rich. And that’s before we even look at GLS, which the Govt will force cross funding before it ever contemplates a rescue package/re nationalisation.

its not me saying they will, its senior management and now some of our reps. the whole lot is farcical

[Spartacus]

There's an interesting point in there about Rule 13 ballots, how many of these are the national union sitting on?

[aiden01]

Massive NO from me…….

Please explain what a massive NO is does it get you a higher vote than my simple yes.

Simple being the operative word for you aiden .

We all now it means a definite no .

Thanks for clarifying that (we all now it means a definite no) an you say im simple.

[pieoftheday]

Massive NO from me…….

Please explain what a massive NO is does it get you a higher vote than my simple yes.

It dosnt but a HUGE NO does.

[freespeech]

Can the cwu say how many reps have won there cases and returned to work I here there's not one and all them have been sacked if that is right I will be voting no

Reps have been dismissed, won their NAP Appeal, yet Royal Mail refuses to reinstate them.

That is why these so-called independent reviews of suspended/dismissed reps are nothing more than smokescreen and mirrors.

Have no doubt some reps deserve to be dismissed with their conduct but the CWU have just thrown them to the wolves and washed their hands of them. After such conduct very much doubt any new rep would volunteer for the position with a big target on their back and no support.

I'm pretty sure winning a tribunal has no legal power to force reinstatement. You would just get compensated for unfair dismissal.

[redlen]

You are correct, but my post was about the National Appeals Panel for reps, not an employment tribunal.

Know a few reps who have won their NAP before this dispute and reinstated with full back pay from dismissal date