The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

[2yearpostie]

I cant vote on, and im glad. Still im glad your union did a job for you members.

[Bosley]

You can stick that right up your arse "BIG NO" from me and I have just rung up cancelling my CWU subs

[49erman]

Massive NO from me! CWU have sold us down the river! It seems that the CWU are only looking after themselves and don’t give a fook about anyone else. That’s my subs gone pointless keep paying in……….

[sixfoottwo]

It's a massive No from me, shafted by the union how do you cancel your subs?

Total disgrace, and I'll be surprised if they s is voted through though to be honest, no massive £££ incentive may Doom this one.

[spaceman07]

Absolute garbage deal big fat NO from me!

[rambo1]

Why on earth has the Union agreed to £500 lump sum when they were offered the option of £1500 with the same 8% pay rise over 2yrs? Are they bloody thick or what? They sound it and are now showing it!!

I don't think those 2 pay offers had any difference to them in terms of money we'd get in total. The difference was that you would get more money up front with the £1,500.... for me the £1,500 lump sum option was the more enticing deal as anyone who wants to invest some money, pay off debt, splash out on something would want this deal and even if not, this is psychologically the better option....

So no idea why the CWU went with the £500 option. Maybe Royal Mail ended up removing the £1,500 option as maybe it's better for them not to be paying out masses of money right now and better to pay us over the space of a year....

I am sure the CWU will explain why the £1,500 option disappeared / hasn't been offered to us.

I stand corrected. For it to be the same you do have to stay the full term until April 25 though. You'd have thought if the two choices were there, the union would have gone for the one that gives those who would leave in the next yr, a better deal if it made no odds to the rest of the deal.

[Nickvilla20]

The deal is bad but what makes it worse is that people put a lot of faith in the union leadership and will feel very let by them.

The deal should have been done months ago with out the loss of pay and reputation to the business bit egos from both sides got in the way.

Looks like the union and the company have got some selling to do cause it looks like it gone down like a lead ballon with the membership.

[Acca Dacca]

Why on earth has the Union agreed to £500 lump sum when they were offered the option of £1500 with the same 8% pay rise over 2yrs? Are they bloody thick or what? They sound it and are now showing it!!

I don't think those 2 pay offers had any difference to them in terms of money we'd get in total. The difference was that you would get more money up front with the £1,500.... for me the £1,500 lump sum option was the more enticing deal as anyone who wants to invest some money, pay off debt, splash out on something would want this deal and even if not, this is psychologically the better option....

So no idea why the CWU went with the £500 option. Maybe Royal Mail ended up removing the £1,500 option as maybe it's better for them not to be paying out masses of money right now and better to pay us over the space of a year....

I am sure the CWU will explain why the £1,500 option disappeared / hasn't been offered to us.

I stand corrected. For it to be the same you do have to stay the full term until April 25 though. You'd have thought if the two choices were there, the union would have gone for the one that gives those who would leave in the next yr, a better deal if it made no odds to the rest of the deal.

They want to incentivise staying not taking the lump sum money and running

The rest of the deal doesn’t exactly incentivise stating long term right enough

[deadbox]

If you leave the union now, you WON'T get to vote on the deal.

[needadvice]

Don't let the Union get away with this poor deal. Vote No

[neil1969]

It took them a week to announce this garbage?
Unbelievable!!!

[Spartacus]

What has changed since the RM announced the end of talks a few weeks back?

Apart from removing the £1500 option everything else looks the same.

What have the union been doing for the last couple of weeks?

[Nick50]

Well that's my union membership cancelled.

[fonic]

We will win this dispute we were told time and time again, sure doesn't feel to me ive won. NO NO NO NO from me. Legs getting hammered with hundreds more calls, already on a 1300 call rate pairing duty go f yourself union very unhappy

[Jack1960]

Sorry if this is already covered as im reading this out on my round. If we start 24 mins early in the peak weeks and then have to take 25 mins off indoor prep that means 50 mins more on delivery ?
Or have i got that wrong ?