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CWU: ROYAL MAIL GROUP: TRADE DISPUTES - PAY & CHANGE & Letter from Simon
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CWU: ROYAL MAIL GROUP: TRADE DISPUTES - PAY & CHANGE & Letter from Simon
As reported in this weeks live Facebook session and meetings with the Postal Executive and our Field Officials, Royal Mail Group have now taken major executive action to escalate their dispute (two trade disputes - pay and change) with the union.
The CWU arrived to meet the CEO yesterday, expecting to discuss how we could find a resolution to our disputes and we were ready to put forward an approach that would have enabled meaningful negotiations to take place.
However, just before the meeting commenced, we received a number of messages that Royal Mail were simultaneously communicating their position directly with our members in the workplace.
It became apparent that the whole meeting was staged managed for the sole purpose of reading out and handing the union two letters.
The first letter announced that the company were serving notice on a range of agreements that amount to further major attacks on our members’ terms and conditions and signal Royal Mail’s clear intention to derecognise the union. Bizarrely, after opening up a chasm between the two parties, the second letter stated that the company wanted to reach an agreement with the union to go to ACAS.
During the short meeting the CEO refused to answer any questions from the union and refused to engage in any discussion about how we could resolve the dispute.
We also believe the company’s calculated move is designed to facilitate the breakup of the Royal Mail Group and the introduction of a separate gig economy style Parcel Network, whilst deliberately creating the circumstances to make the USO economically unsustainable.
There are a number of conclusions that we have reached from this meeting.
Firstly, that the company for the first time in the history of CWU/Royal Mail industrial relations have a deliberate policy not to engage in talks at the highest level of the business and the union.
Secondly, the offer of talks at ACAS, whilst at the same time announcing major executive action, is an absurd proposition and represents one of the most disingenuous acts we have ever witnessed from Royal Mail.
Thirdly, that currently the company have no intention of reaching an agreement with the union and are simply stalling for time, whilst they continue to move forward their own plans and await the outcome of the Government’s investigation into the VESA takeover bid.
Next Steps
The Postal Executive will be meeting on Tuesday 27th September to discuss a range of plans to escalate the dispute, including further strike action. Following this an online briefing will be held with all senior field officials.
The union will also be responding in writing to Royal Mail’s correspondence as well as setting out our position on ACAS.
Further information on our next steps will be communicated to Branches, reps and members next week. In the meantime, it is essential that we continue to galvanise support for our strike action on Friday 30th September and Saturday 1st October.
Finally, it is already clear from the reaction of our members across the UK, that Royal Mail’s unacceptable conduct means our resolve has never been stronger.
The CWU arrived to meet the CEO yesterday, expecting to discuss how we could find a resolution to our disputes and we were ready to put forward an approach that would have enabled meaningful negotiations to take place.
However, just before the meeting commenced, we received a number of messages that Royal Mail were simultaneously communicating their position directly with our members in the workplace.
It became apparent that the whole meeting was staged managed for the sole purpose of reading out and handing the union two letters.
The first letter announced that the company were serving notice on a range of agreements that amount to further major attacks on our members’ terms and conditions and signal Royal Mail’s clear intention to derecognise the union. Bizarrely, after opening up a chasm between the two parties, the second letter stated that the company wanted to reach an agreement with the union to go to ACAS.
During the short meeting the CEO refused to answer any questions from the union and refused to engage in any discussion about how we could resolve the dispute.
We also believe the company’s calculated move is designed to facilitate the breakup of the Royal Mail Group and the introduction of a separate gig economy style Parcel Network, whilst deliberately creating the circumstances to make the USO economically unsustainable.
There are a number of conclusions that we have reached from this meeting.
Firstly, that the company for the first time in the history of CWU/Royal Mail industrial relations have a deliberate policy not to engage in talks at the highest level of the business and the union.
Secondly, the offer of talks at ACAS, whilst at the same time announcing major executive action, is an absurd proposition and represents one of the most disingenuous acts we have ever witnessed from Royal Mail.
Thirdly, that currently the company have no intention of reaching an agreement with the union and are simply stalling for time, whilst they continue to move forward their own plans and await the outcome of the Government’s investigation into the VESA takeover bid.
Next Steps
The Postal Executive will be meeting on Tuesday 27th September to discuss a range of plans to escalate the dispute, including further strike action. Following this an online briefing will be held with all senior field officials.
The union will also be responding in writing to Royal Mail’s correspondence as well as setting out our position on ACAS.
Further information on our next steps will be communicated to Branches, reps and members next week. In the meantime, it is essential that we continue to galvanise support for our strike action on Friday 30th September and Saturday 1st October.
Finally, it is already clear from the reaction of our members across the UK, that Royal Mail’s unacceptable conduct means our resolve has never been stronger.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: CWU: ROYAL MAIL GROUP: TRADE DISPUTES – PAY & CHANGE




I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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midegarelu
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Re: CWU: ROYAL MAIL GROUP: TRADE DISPUTES - PAY & CHANGE & Letter from Simon
Yet more fuel for the fire!
The age old problem in RM is the one marked COMMUNICATION.
Probably 80% of members in our MC have absolutely no idea of what's going and are only getting information from the work shy sheep (occasionally know as Managers.)

The age old problem in RM is the one marked COMMUNICATION.
Probably 80% of members in our MC have absolutely no idea of what's going and are only getting information from the work shy sheep (occasionally know as Managers.)
"We employ you so we can sack you"
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Re: CWU: ROYAL MAIL GROUP: TRADE DISPUTES - PAY & CHANGE & Letter from Simon
It’s all out war and up to us to respond appropriately
I know what I would do
I know what I would do
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i will do what the cwu tell me to do to the bitter end.Nearly 30 years in will not see thompson win if i lose my job then so be it.
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Feel exactly the samepostieblueshirt wrote: ↑24 Sep 2022, 18:38i will do what the cwu tell me to do to the bitter end.Nearly 30 years in will not see thompson win if i lose my job then so be it.
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Better to die on your feet than live on your knees
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Time for hard line tactics start with the holiday pay agreement rip it up and watch 80,000 colleagues take them to court for every penny owed not this 8 hr minimum rubbish wether it’s 50 mins or 50 hours let’s get everything we are owed
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Well in over 30 years I've never known such a terrible senior management, I do understand where they're coming from,short term gain fxck the workers.if RM breaks up we lose our jobs, if the awful terms and conditions come in weve effectively lost our jobs. I keep hearing we are a parcel company that does letters now, ok but we still deliver huge amounts of letters so theres money to be made.so it's just the short term gain they're interested in, as many have said, s**t show !aiden01 wrote: ↑24 Sep 2022, 19:04Feel exactly the samepostieblueshirt wrote: ↑24 Sep 2022, 18:38i will do what the cwu tell me to do to the bitter end.Nearly 30 years in will not see thompson win if i lose my job then so be it.![]()
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Did they not in last strike have mail center staff out first,then the lorry driver's from the mall centers out and finally the delivery offices. So day 1 no mail sorted, day 2 mail sorted but no lorry driver's, day 3 no posties
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We can not let his bloody minded corporate thug win. I will stand as part of the CWU till the end. Simon, when you get paid off, please remember when your counting your dough that you actually failed.
God bless, Simon. You’ll need all the help you can get.
God bless, Simon. You’ll need all the help you can get.
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The bit about how CWU collect subs.. how bad is that bit
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Mr T is smart. He works in a different world.
He has f****d up each and every job he has had, yet they all paid him a wedge of money to f**k off.
He doesn't have to try, he gets paid mega bucks to f**k up this way.
He has snaffled loads of shares and bonuses already. This inept twat with no skills or judgement will be yet another CEO walking off with £ millions for f***ing it all up
He has f****d up each and every job he has had, yet they all paid him a wedge of money to f**k off.
He doesn't have to try, he gets paid mega bucks to f**k up this way.
He has snaffled loads of shares and bonuses already. This inept twat with no skills or judgement will be yet another CEO walking off with £ millions for f***ing it all up
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Royal Mail are losing millions paying this Simon geezer. Just like they lost millions paying that Rico geezer.