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Simon letter to CWU to call off tomorrows strike.

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Simon letter to CWU to call off tomorrows strike.

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You've had a year Simon the boat has now sailed the only way to save your job now is to enter meaningful talks but the strikes will carry on as we have no faith in you anymore,being from a working class background we can't believe you have mistaken the fight in the working man,good luck with your next job.
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Getting hammered currently.
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working class background ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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if this independent chair isn't gonna be there, wtf is the point, no wonder they've said no.
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R5001 wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 19:41
if this independent chair isn't gonna be there, wtf is the point, no wonder they've said no.
KW had plenty to say in relation to the changes in this recent Times article, it's bizarre he's apparently now refusing to attend any meetings.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/roya ... -lpqnm9mdx
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These aren't talks that you want are they Simon?.... :no no

All you want to do is say 'the offer already on the table is the only offer'. That's not how it works - you need to come to us with a better offer as the one on the table is pathetic, an insult, ridiculous.

It's a waste of time if all you want to do is tell Dave and Terry that the status quo stands. We all know how much Royal Mail made last year. We all know how well you guys at the top have treated yourselves. If you didn't throw money down the drain on agency workers and treated your current work force with respect, maybe your costs would go down.

Come back with an IMPROVED OFFER! :cuppa
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This letter seems to be RMs answer the CWU letter sent earlier today, and laid out in another post? :hmmmm

Both parties blaming the other for not attending offered talks FFS is this last minute brinkmanship? I think most of us just want everyone back around the table and sorting this mess out. There's so many scare stories going around it'd give a small child nightmares. :speak to the hand

Get a good night's kip people, we're on Strike tomorrow, then we'll see how things develop. It might concentrate Simple Simon's mind? :cuppa
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At some point he needs to realise that the financial position of the business is irrelevant to this dispute.

Does he think that it is OK to tear up the contracts with RM's energy providers and then fail to pay the increased energy costs because RM won't be able to pay dividends to their shareholders? If not, why on earth does he think that it is acceptable to do that with the employees of RM? He clearly, mistakenly, thinks that we give a s**t about RM. We only provide our labour to the business in exchange for pay and on terms agreed under our contracts.

The shareholders, when they invested in RM on privatisation, knew that it wasn't simply another parcels business but also had the onerous commitment to deliver letters under the USO. Arguing now that they are losing money on letters so we, the employees, should pay the price to provide a better return to investors is asinine thinking. The investors should have done their due diligence.
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Does he really think the cwu is going to call off a national strike on the basis of him offering to meet and reaffirm his unmovable position?
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Schiff wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 20:01
At some point he needs to realise that the financial position of the business is irrelevant to this dispute.

Does he think that it is OK to tear up the contracts with RM's energy providers and then fail to pay the increased energy costs because RM won't be able to pay dividends to their shareholders? If not, why on earth does he think that it is acceptable to do that with the employees of RM? He clearly, mistakenly, thinks that we give a s**t about RM. We only provide our labour to the business in exchange for pay and on terms agreed under our contracts.

The shareholders, when they invested in RM on privatisation, knew that it wasn't simply another parcels business but also had the onerous commitment to deliver letters under the USO. Arguing now that they are losing money on letters so we, the employees, should pay the price to provide a better return to investors is asinine thinking. The investors should have done their due diligence.
Well said Schiff :Applause
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guardianangel wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 19:33
You've had a year Simon the boat has now sailed the only way to save your job now is to enter meaningful talks but the strikes will carry on as we have no faith in you anymore,being from a working class background we can't believe you have mistaken the fight in the working man,good luck with your next job.
I think the bloke is out of his depth regarding industrial relations
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Could the purpose of this letter be to support the break clause in the agenda for growth agreement. It seems to be putting all the blame for the lack of dialogue on the CWU.
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Re: Simon letter to CWU to call off tomorrows strike.

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Caesar wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 20:56
Could the purpose of this letter be to support the break clause in the agenda for growth agreement. It seems to be putting all the blame for the lack of dialogue on the CWU.
He needs to justify why he is refusing to have Keith Williams involved

The CWU can justify insisting for him to be there
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: Simon letter to CWU to call off tomorrows strike.

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Schiff wrote:
25 Aug 2022, 20:01
At some point he needs to realise that the financial position of the business is irrelevant to this dispute.

Does he think that it is OK to tear up the contracts with RM's energy providers and then fail to pay the increased energy costs because RM won't be able to pay dividends to their shareholders? If not, why on earth does he think that it is acceptable to do that with the employees of RM? He clearly, mistakenly, thinks that we give a s**t about RM. We only provide our labour to the business in exchange for pay and on terms agreed under our contracts.

The shareholders, when they invested in RM on privatisation, knew that it wasn't simply another parcels business but also had the onerous commitment to deliver letters under the USO. Arguing now that they are losing money on letters so we, the employees, should pay the price to provide a better return to investors is asinine thinking. The investors should have done their due diligence.
Mate that’s a great point, I’m using that on the public tomorrow, they knew we had letters / uso and now the burden’s being used to shaft us, the workers !