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2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

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Walter sobchak
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Re: 2nd ballot result

Post by Walter sobchak »

2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:15
Walter sobchak wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 17:56
2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 16:34
Good luck with your action.
Will you take the improved pay offer the Union and it’s members win?

Do I have any choice?
Would you opt out if you could?

You could always give the money to a much more needy cause.
mjd24
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Re: 2nd ballot result

Post by mjd24 »

2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 16:48
Shirtbuttons wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 16:46
The ones that voted no are the 40 minute early brigade and trainee wannabe managers.
Or the ones with kids to feed that need every single penny. A lot of the newer staff are not financially stable and as much as theyd like to strike arent in a postion too.
🙄
2yearpostie
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Re: 2nd ballot result

Post by 2yearpostie »

Walter sobchak wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:28
2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:15
Walter sobchak wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 17:56
2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 16:34
Good luck with your action.
Will you take the improved pay offer the Union and it’s members win?

Do I have any choice?
Would you opt out if you could?

You could always give the money to a much more needy cause.
Money yes, I cant change what conditions I work under to everyone else though.
claystones
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by claystones »

perhaps the 1100 people who voted no can work all the Sundays because i dont want to
priority102
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by priority102 »

Whilst the result is great, the 72.2% turnout is shameful on those who didn't vote.

You get a piece of paper with which all you have to do is place an "X" in a box, then put said piece of paper into the FREEPOST envelope provided, and then post said envelope into a post box, most offices of which have one right outside, or even the forwards bag actually within the office.

This whole process should take (possibly) about one minute?

Those who couldn't be bothered to even do that (whichever way you wanted to vote), defies human comprehension.

You are a let down to the CWU that you PAY to be a member of. Simon and the "upper Team" will be number crunching the 72.2% into employee numbers, adding to that those who are not in the union to get a good idea of just how much ACTUAL support there is over the total workforce, and possibly pitching their plan of attack accordingly.

Wonder what Ward and Pullinger have said privately within 4 walls about the turnout result.

There is no reason why turnout should not have been very close to 100% given how serious this situation is.
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2yearpostie
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by 2yearpostie »

priority102 wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:34
Whilst the result is great, the 72.2% turnout is shameful on those who didn't vote.

You get a piece of paper with which all you have to do is place an "X" in a box, then put said piece of paper into the FREEPOST envelope provided, and then post said envelope into a post box, most offices of which have one right outside, or even the forwards bag actually within the office.

Those who couldn't be bothered to even do that (whichever way you wanted to vote), defies human comprehension.

You are a let down to the CWU that you PAY to be a member of.
(if they recieved a ballot..)
yellowbelly
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by yellowbelly »

2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:37
priority102 wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:34
Whilst the result is great, the 72.2% turnout is shameful on those who didn't vote.

You get a piece of paper with which all you have to do is place an "X" in a box, then put said piece of paper into the FREEPOST envelope provided, and then post said envelope into a post box, most offices of which have one right outside, or even the forwards bag actually within the office.

Those who couldn't be bothered to even do that (whichever way you wanted to vote), defies human comprehension.

You are a let down to the CWU that you PAY to be a member of.
(if they recieved a ballot..)
Did you get one this time? Did you chase it up after not getting one for the first ballot?
Frankie15
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by Frankie15 »

There's no excuse to not receiving a ballot. Everyone knew when and what day they came out as everyone would have seen them in their walks if a postie lives on it or even in their general IPS sorting. If someone then hadn't received theirs within a day or so they would have had plenty of time to either speak to their unit rep, ring or email headquarters. (That is if they didn't want to hide behind an excuse for not receiving one for other purposes!!)👀👀
Frankie15
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by Frankie15 »

Did you get one this time? Did you chase it up after not getting one for the first ballot?
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Once is a mistake. Twice is a crime!!!
2yearpostie
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by 2yearpostie »

Frankie15 wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:54
Did you get one this time? Did you chase it up after not getting one for the first ballot?
Once is a mistake. Twice is a crime!!!
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Yep I got one, turns out muppets at union had deleted my info.
the beautiful bd south
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by the beautiful bd south »

priority102 wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:34
Whilst the result is great, the 72.2% turnout is shameful on those who didn't vote.

You get a piece of paper with which all you have to do is place an "X" in a box, then put said piece of paper into the FREEPOST envelope provided, and then post said envelope into a post box, most offices of which have one right outside, or even the forwards bag actually within the office.

This whole process should take (possibly) about one minute?

Those who couldn't be bothered to even do that (whichever way you wanted to vote), defies human comprehension.

You are a let down to the CWU that you PAY to be a member of. Simon and the "upper Team" will be number crunching the 72.2% into employee numbers, adding to that those who are not in the union to get a good idea of just how much ACTUAL support there is over the total workforce, and possibly pitching their plan of attack accordingly.

Wonder what Ward and Pullinger have said privately within 4 walls about the turnout result.

There is no reason why turnout should not have been very close to 100% given how serious this situation is.
It was always going to be a massive yes vote.
Maybe "some" people who don't want to strike didn't vote in the hope that the ballot wouldn't reach the turnout threshold. 🤔

The most important YES vote for a very long time
TOO OLD TO DIE YOUNG
hewittinspain
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by hewittinspain »

claystones wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:31
perhaps the 1100 people who voted no can work all the Sundays because i dont want to
I haven't a problem working the 'odd' sunday but it has to be shared out evenly between drivers and non drivers. It would absolutely stink if non drivers end up having a shift pattern that does not include a sunday because if this is the case then the business should not accomodate them.
If we do end up working the odd sunday then they should look at given them a saturday off instead. I would like to see a 4 on 4 off working pattern eventually but this will never happen
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: 2nd ballot result

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:15
Walter sobchak wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 17:56
2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 16:34
Good luck with your action.
Will you take the improved pay offer the Union and it’s members win?

Do I have any choice?
Maybe you can go in early and work for free..

Oh hold on.......Lol. :no no
Jack1960
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Re: 2nd ballot result : 72.2% Turnout 98.7 % YES

Post by Jack1960 »

hewittinspain wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 19:10
claystones wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 18:31
perhaps the 1100 people who voted no can work all the Sundays because i dont want to
I haven't a problem working the 'odd' sunday but it has to be shared out evenly between drivers and non drivers. It would absolutely stink if non drivers end up having a shift pattern that does not include a sunday because if this is the case then the business should not accomodate them.
If we do end up working the odd sunday then they should look at given them a saturday off instead. I would like to see a 4 on 4 off working pattern eventually but this will never happen
I cant drive but have done some sundays as van assist, we got more work than single vans and had to go back to the hub to load up again, the driver said he much prefered it , he was doing Wednesday to sunday that week .
Hyrrokkin
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Re: 2nd ballot result

Post by Hyrrokkin »

robson144 wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 17:51
2yearpostie wrote:
17 Aug 2022, 16:34
Good luck with your action.
Very saddening to read this. We should all be in this together.
Ignore him he is a wind up merchant