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IHR advice

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Manofletters91
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Joined: 27 Jan 2019, 23:14
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Re: IHR advice

Post by Manofletters91 »

Finally got my referral, doctor confirmed I met the criteria and qualify to leave the business with a lump sum.

Since then I’ve heard absolutely nothing because, I’m told, the manager dealing with my case is some sort of area boss following a restructure and he’s got too many IHR cases on at the moment so “isn’t in any rush”. As if that’s a reason.

Sod it, I’m phoning the branch rep tomorrow.
Iby162
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Re: IHR advice

Post by Iby162 »

I know what your going through. Iv been of sick for over 2 years now. Over 1 year on zero pay luckily I’m on pip and universal credit and that has been helping me a little to get along with things and that was a mission in itself to receive.

So 2 years of sick handing in regular sick notes, I was keeping in contact with management ( as you should ) but more recently I just can’t keep up anymore, due to medications changing. I suffer from depression and anxiety. Iv had around 8 OHS appointments during this time of sick from work. More recently the last 2 times OHS telling me I’m unfit to work and won’t be returning to work in the foreseeable future and they Royal Mail should be looking at other avenues to resolving my sickness. I have been deemed disabled under the disability act. More recently in June had another OHS referral and she was just angry as to why they were keep referring me when they was told the last time I won’t be returning to work in the foreseeable future and look to resolve this another way.

Literally after that appointment one month past and no contact at all from management. So I texted him but no reply nothing. Complete joke. So I spoke to union rep who said they would chase it up for me. But this has been a complete an utter shambles. My health has worsened during this time and I told them time and time again I just wanted this resolved so I can move on and focus on my health. Even a few months back management was telling me just hand in your resignation it will be easier for you , luckily union stopped me and told me not to do it this way.

So maybe you have got off lightly, I don’t even know what’s going on.
wrongturn
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Joined: 08 May 2022, 10:30
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Re: IHR advice

Post by wrongturn »

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aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
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Re: IHR advice

Post by aiden01 »

wrongturn wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 16:32
Iby162 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 05:07
I know what your going through. Iv been of sick for over 2 years now. Over 1 year on zero pay luckily I’m on pip and universal credit and that has been helping me a little to get along with things and that was a mission in itself to receive.

So 2 years of sick handing in regular sick notes, I was keeping in contact with management ( as you should ) but more recently I just can’t keep up anymore, due to medications changing. I suffer from depression and anxiety. Iv had around 8 OHS appointments during this time of sick from work. More recently the last 2 times OHS telling me I’m unfit to work and won’t be returning to work in the foreseeable future and they Royal Mail should be looking at other avenues to resolving my sickness. I have been deemed disabled under the disability act. More recently in June had another OHS referral and she was just angry as to why they were keep referring me when they was told the last time I won’t be returning to work in the foreseeable future and look to resolve this another way.

Literally after that appointment one month past and no contact at all from management. So I texted him but no reply nothing. Complete joke. So I spoke to union rep who said they would chase it up for me. But this has been a complete an utter shambles. My health has worsened during this time and I told them time and time again I just wanted this resolved so I can move on and focus on my health. Even a few months back management was telling me just hand in your resignation it will be easier for you , luckily union stopped me and told me not to do it this way.

So maybe you have got off lightly, I don’t even know what’s going on.
are you wanting ill health retirement? if so then before ur next OH meeting ask your manager and talk about i heath retirement. say it's something you think it's time for and they should include that in notes for your next OH meeting . OH cant always recommend it without the words coming from royal mailf first
Did'nt think you could ask for ihr thought ohs doctor was only person who could recommend.
Iby162
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Joined: 05 Sep 2020, 11:19
Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by Iby162 »

For the last year now I have been asking about this IHR, also union have been pressing on about it as well to management at Royal Mail. But at every opportunity they just keep referring me to OHS and literally they have had enough as well. Literally the last 2 phone call appointments lasted around 7mins .
aiden01
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Re: IHR advice

Post by aiden01 »

Iby162 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 19:19
For the last year now I have been asking about this IHR, also union have been pressing on about it as well to management at Royal Mail. But at every opportunity they just keep referring me to OHS and literally they have had enough as well. Literally the last 2 phone call appointments lasted around 7mins .
Only thing i can say is ask on your next ohs apt is ask can you considered to be refered to ohs doctor for his/ her opinion.
Iby162
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Re: IHR advice

Post by Iby162 »

Yeah I will do. Because nothing is happening, just going round and round in circles. I’m not sure what even management wants to do or what ideas he’s got in his head but this is torture.
Ad_bee
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Joined: 09 Dec 2019, 14:03
Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by Ad_bee »

Iby162 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 04:47
Yeah I will do. Because nothing is happening, just going round and round in circles. I’m not sure what even management wants to do or what ideas he’s got in his head but this is torture.
Just athought, because I have absolutely no idea in the matter, but have you tried Union Line and trying to bring RM to court?

Is it an option?

Would it work?

IDK!
wrongturn
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Joined: 08 May 2022, 10:30
Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by wrongturn »

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aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by aiden01 »

wrongturn wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 08:33
aiden01 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 16:53
wrongturn wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 16:32
Iby162 wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 05:07
I know what your going through. Iv been of sick for over 2 years now. Over 1 year on zero pay luckily I’m on pip and universal credit and that has been helping me a little to get along with things and that was a mission in itself to receive.

So 2 years of sick handing in regular sick notes, I was keeping in contact with management ( as you should ) but more recently I just can’t keep up anymore, due to medications changing. I suffer from depression and anxiety. Iv had around 8 OHS appointments during this time of sick from work. More recently the last 2 times OHS telling me I’m unfit to work and won’t be returning to work in the foreseeable future and they Royal Mail should be looking at other avenues to resolving my sickness. I have been deemed disabled under the disability act. More recently in June had another OHS referral and she was just angry as to why they were keep referring me when they was told the last time I won’t be returning to work in the foreseeable future and look to resolve this another way.

Literally after that appointment one month past and no contact at all from management. So I texted him but no reply nothing. Complete joke. So I spoke to union rep who said they would chase it up for me. But this has been a complete an utter shambles. My health has worsened during this time and I told them time and time again I just wanted this resolved so I can move on and focus on my health. Even a few months back management was telling me just hand in your resignation it will be easier for you , luckily union stopped me and told me not to do it this way.

So maybe you have got off lightly, I don’t even know what’s going on.
are you wanting ill health retirement? if so then before ur next OH meeting ask your manager and talk about i heath retirement. say it's something you think it's time for and they should include that in notes for your next OH meeting . OH cant always recommend it without the words coming from royal mailf first
Did'nt think you could ask for ihr thought ohs doctor was only person who could recommend.
ohs doctor might be able to but in what i know you often wont get a doctor ull get a nurse and they cannot mention ill health retirement. best thin can do is tell your manage its something u want to be considered for. t
Afaik you can ask the nurse to refer you to speak to ohs doctor.
Iby162
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Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by Iby162 »

That’s what happened in the last phone call. The nurse was like I can’t say that they should give you IHR , but they should be considering it. That’s why on the letter she wrote , to consider ‘other avenues’ meaning IHR. Iv tried to do everything I can . I even wrote to the head of union like 2 times and they know what’s going on with my issue . But it’s like nobody cares and they just letting months and years go by with nothing. I don’t know about going to court with RM , I’m just following UNION advice..
aiden01
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Re: IHR advice

Post by aiden01 »

Iby162 wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 19:50
That’s what happened in the last phone call. The nurse was like I can’t say that they should give you IHR , but they should be considering it. That’s why on the letter she wrote , to consider ‘other avenues’ meaning IHR. Iv tried to do everything I can . I even wrote to the head of union like 2 times and they know what’s going on with my issue . But it’s like nobody cares and they just letting months and years go by with nothing. I don’t know about going to court with RM , I’m just following UNION advice..
Surprised nurse didnt refer to doc for ihr thought tats how it worked.
wazer
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014, 21:20
Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by wazer »

My manager suggested IHR and so did my rep.Have been off long term sick mental health.Had a meeting arranged with OH on Thurday.They text me twice to remind me of times and dates Tue,/Wed.Had letter confirming time (although it was half hr later the appointment.) Waited for phone call Thursday 8.30 very anxious but I had support with me.At 8:16 had text saying its cancelled and OH had been unable to get hold of me.My rep not happy ,my manager not I was fuming...So much for the support.My Dr's not happy about it.
LittleTed
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Joined: 07 Aug 2022, 09:02
Gender: Female

Re: IHR advice

Post by LittleTed »

Out of interest what’s the quickest amount of time from anybody has been offered ill health retirement then actually left through it?
wazer
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014, 21:20
Gender: Male

Re: IHR advice

Post by wazer »

wazer wrote:
01 Aug 2022, 00:59
My manager suggested IHR and so did my rep.Have been off long term sick mental health.Had a meeting arranged with OH on Thurday.They text me twice to remind me of times and dates Tue,/Wed.Had letter confirming time (although it was half hr later the appointment.) Waited for phone call Thursday 8.30 very anxious but I had support with me.At 8:16 had text saying its cancelled and OH had been unable to get hold of me.My rep not happy ,my manager not I was fuming...So much for the support.My Dr's not happy about it.
I have now had confirmation from OH that I can leave business with lump sum.It also states leaving with income support are not meet.Any ideas. Will ask my rep tomoz.