Sounds like it might result in us having to make our final dispatches later in the winter2yearpostie wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 07:24You are funny SP, they will also change the times of the trucks arriving and leaving throughout the year as well, you guys are gonna get just as shafted as us in delivery, probably more so.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 07:06Can't see it fully working in MCs as it's no good carrying on after the normal finish time of a shift as the work will miss the final lorries off to the next offices so it'll fail anyway. Won't be viable for longer hours in the winter as you'll have to wait anyway for the previous shift to finish and get their work dispatched before you can start tidying up and getting your own work areas set up
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
I agree, thats what they want. Unfortunatley it means us in delivery would be out till gone 9pm with the 'flexible' working thing.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 07:42Sounds like it might result in us having to make our final dispatches later in the winter2yearpostie wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 07:24You are funny SP, they will also change the times of the trucks arriving and leaving throughout the year as well, you guys are gonna get just as shafted as us in delivery, probably more so.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 07:06Can't see it fully working in MCs as it's no good carrying on after the normal finish time of a shift as the work will miss the final lorries off to the next offices so it'll fail anyway. Won't be viable for longer hours in the winter as you'll have to wait anyway for the previous shift to finish and get their work dispatched before you can start tidying up and getting your own work areas set up
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
So much for the "culture" in RM. Annualised hours and the above and beyond bonus thing sound like a recipe for a ramping up of both management and co-worker bullying. Certainly in DOs, anyway.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Annualised hours you can take it or receive it who's on top simon "eric" Thompson makes me wonder if we are all being shafted once again he can f**k himself!
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Good luck working in the dark delivering mail down some country lanes, up someone's dark dodgy uneven driveway, getting stuck in School and rush hour traffic.
Mass exodus of staff is coming if this comes in.
One of the main benefits of being a Postie is finishing at ~2pm. It makes it different from other delivery jobs and makes up a bit for the physicality of the job. If we go to working later and finishing later we might as well look elsewhere for work where we can do far less physical labour.
Mass exodus of staff is coming if this comes in.
One of the main benefits of being a Postie is finishing at ~2pm. It makes it different from other delivery jobs and makes up a bit for the physicality of the job. If we go to working later and finishing later we might as well look elsewhere for work where we can do far less physical labour.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Then what’s the bets they get the USO down to 5 days just after all the staff walk and they save a fortune in VR. I’m afraid my trust of them has disappeared so much I’m starting to think this is all part of an even bigger plan.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Possible.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑19 Jun 2022, 22:22Then what’s the bets they get the USO down to 5 days just after all the staff walk and they save a fortune in VR. I’m afraid my trust of them has disappeared so much I’m starting to think this is all part of an even bigger plan.
After this 2% pay rise and the minimum wage going up 6.6% we are heading towards getting paid the minimum wage in time.
They will probably offer us 1/3rd of the minimum wage increase each time until we are at minimum wage level.
Being a Postie for minimum wage is not worth it for the daily aches and pains. It's barely worth it now. So I very much doubt they'd be able to retain the amount of staff they need if we keep getting paid less.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
I've a good idea how about pushing start times to say 4pm most people will be home by the time we start delivery by 630pm and it will be nice and cool.
Be quite funny to wake someone up with a parcel near midnight
Be quite funny to wake someone up with a parcel near midnight
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Yup, just mental. Even if they rely on management's B&H to clear rounds, parcels, etc, it just won't work. As mentioned retainment of staff, no chance if working random hours and pay is lower, just work somewhere easier.
Rural or difficult places to deliver will increase the messiness of this, won't be enough knowledgeable staff left to be delivering efficiently.
Different people on different rounds every day in the dark will cause lots more dog attacks and trips and falls.
As mentioned it really does seem like a slow move to an Amazon style overhaul now. The RM people favoured will be gone soon enough. Posties will be nameless workers on the street.
Rural or difficult places to deliver will increase the messiness of this, won't be enough knowledgeable staff left to be delivering efficiently.
Different people on different rounds every day in the dark will cause lots more dog attacks and trips and falls.
As mentioned it really does seem like a slow move to an Amazon style overhaul now. The RM people favoured will be gone soon enough. Posties will be nameless workers on the street.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Apparently we are going to have a work time learning tomorrow about the changes they want. The COM who is doing it has already mentioned us doing 30 hours a week in the summer, 44 in the winter.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Or get punched on the nose or shot pot of piss on your head take your pick.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Unless there are massive to duties in the summer there wouldn't be much getting doneClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 16:48Apparently we are going to have a work time learning tomorrow about the changes they want. The COM who is doing it has already mentioned us doing 30 hours a week in the summer, 44 in the winter.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Well let us know what they want AND ASK IF THE GUY DOING THE COM will be doing it my best guess NOT!Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 16:48Apparently we are going to have a work time learning tomorrow about the changes they want. The COM who is doing it has already mentioned us doing 30 hours a week in the summer, 44 in the winter.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
This has been the long term plan all along since privatization - nothing slow about it - full steam ahead now brakes off going downhillWASD wrote: ↑20 Jun 2022, 16:26Yup, just mental. Even if they rely on management's B&H to clear rounds, parcels, etc, it just won't work. As mentioned retainment of staff, no chance if working random hours and pay is lower, just work somewhere easier.
Rural or difficult places to deliver will increase the messiness of this, won't be enough knowledgeable staff left to be delivering efficiently.
Different people on different rounds every day in the dark will cause lots more dog attacks and trips and falls.
As mentioned it really does seem like a slow move to an Amazon style overhaul now. The RM people favoured will be gone soon enough. Posties will be nameless workers on the street.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon 'Eric' Thompson says : " It's not annulised hrs-we don't call it that-but-it's annualising-the hrs"
Except without the collosal investment that Amazon did/does. Which is why i think it will fail to succeed. Our route planner is just awful.