Do revisions mean part timers can go full time?

[Martin Walsh]

The number of part timers who became full under the delivery revisions was just under 2000. ( 1957 )

[toonshola]

The number of part timers who became full under the delivery revisions was just under 2000. ( 1957 )

Whilst this is excellent news please dont try and claim that as some big union victory. Royal Mail have not made up part timers for years when they should have been and have got away with it due to the ineffectiveness of the Cwu. My office people waited 15 years when the hours were clearly there to be filled.

[Startingover]

Being a part timer, I welcome the opportunity of being made up to full time, but following the revision in my Office, I have not heard of anyone being made full time, which is a shame.

As a matter of interest, the 2000 that you quote, are you able to relate this as a percentage of the total amount of part timers?

That way, I shall be able to see if there are any real opportunities for myself going forward.

[POSTMAN]

Is 1957...'Thousands' that's what Mr Webb stated on the last Q&A malarkey on Facebook.

I genually thought that a shed load got made up, 1957 is good, but it's not 'Thousands' is it?

[norris9]

Not sure I'd want to go full time when jobs are being revised bigger meaning being harassed to stay out and essentially getting close to doing full time hours anyway.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Not sure I'd want to go full time when jobs are being revised bigger meaning being harassed to stay out and essentially getting close to doing full time hours anyway.

Anybody who wanted full time at ours got it, they needed more full timers but they ran out of people who wanted it. How times have changed.

[Martin Walsh]

The 1957 was from the Structural revisions. There were 3254 from table tops which had part timers receiving full time jobs. The higher number was because the model week from table tops was the 4 October weeks so more hours were in the revisions.

[Martin Walsh]

Additionally remember there has been over 100 structural revisions deployed since January which was have increased the number of part timers who have got a full time contract.

There are now only 23 offices outstanding of the 400 which a structural revision planned.

There are also PIRs happening in deployed structural revisions, many which have result in jobs going back in and part timers will get first refusal on Full time jobs. There have been 74 PIRs signed off so far.

[Crowseer]

In our office, lots of PT staff were offered FT posts. A few accepted but the majority didnt want to increase their hours. Several reasons behind this but the majority were childcare issues. The sting in the tail was that the remaining PT staff were forced to drop their hours in line with the SWW. In effect, the FT staff have their hours reduced whilst maintaining their current pay but PT staff actually get their pay reduced as well! The unions response is "well you got a pay rise to compensate". We didnt. The pay rise would have to be around 15% to get close to what we lost.

From talking to colleagues in other offices, this revision is a complete free for all so youre at the mercy of the DOM and union rep. Im only mentioning this in case anyone is in the process of a re-sign/revision and considering the options available. Check the "small print"

[clashcityrocker]

No part timer should have been forced to accept a drop in hours.
Where exactly were your Area and Divisional rep?

If what you are saying is correct, then they should be relieved of their positions immediately.

[Woody Guthrie]

The whole PT to FT thing is a bit more complicated than some would have you believe.

We made roughly 20 up to full-time.
The vast majority were made up on the basis of LAT and Sunday working, that was the unfortunate choice they were left with.
They were also made up to 35hrs.

Since it was done on the basis of seniority most of them were already on 30hr contracts so it was not a huge uplift in pay.

Unfortunately though it has widened the gap between the size the contracts where most of the part-timers left are around the 25hr mark and it has reduced the opportunity for overtime for those part-timers because the LAT work and Sunday work has been incorporated into the full-time contracts.


I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of these contract uplifts in delivery come from LAT offices like mine and are not really the result of great work on behalf of the reps (certainly not in my case) but simply the result of a rebalancing of the LAT and Sunday work which was due to happen anyway.

It's not all wine and roses..