Holiday pay

[daveyeff]

what is also flawed in this is when you are paid short (happens almost every week in our office). you might have worked say only 7 hours overtime in the first 3 weeks of a qualifying month, and on your 4th week work say another 6. but you get your payslip the week after only to realise they havent paid you for last weeks overtime, so you get it a week later. this would then mean you have worked less than the 8 hours for that month when you actually HAVE worked enough hours. but they wont pay it cos they only got you down for 7 hours for the month.

[rambo1]

what is the qualifying criteria? cos i got sweet f.a. on mine.

8 hours overtime a month

I do an ave of about 5-6hrs/wk probably 3-5 in summer, 7-12 in winter , got £301! That's an average of 3and a bit hrs/wk for the 8 wks. How the hell did they work that out??? Anyone else feel they're short changed here? It was for the full 2yrsx4 weeks wasn't it?

[rambo1]

£834 apparently.
Average about 8-10 hours OT per working week minimum.
Have 30 days annual leave/also Wallington Weeks.
Equates to about 15 weeks off per year at standard contract pay (25 hours)
Basically there is never a month in which I don’t work 8 hours OT, normally double or triple that.
Can anybody confirm if this sounds accurate? Thanks.

you'd need to cross check every wage from apr19 in 6 month blocks, i thought the breakdown would be on the app, maybe it'll appear later?
8-10hrs EVERY week without a missed month would equate to roughly between £375-£470 but you said usually double/triple that so doesn't look too far out

*edit, those figures are on a FT overtime rate btw

Cheers. Il give it a thorough look when I’ve got the time. Is this a one off payment because people were mentioning a payment November time too? Haven’t really looked into it all as of yet

10hrs/wk X 8 wks would be about £950.

[rambo1]

what is also flawed in this is when you are paid short (happens almost every week in our office). you might have worked say only 7 hours overtime in the first 3 weeks of a qualifying month, and on your 4th week work say another 6. but you get your payslip the week after only to realise they havent paid you for last weeks overtime, so you get it a week later. this would then mean you have worked less than the 8 hours for that month when you actually HAVE worked enough hours. but they wont pay it cos they only got you down for 7 hours for the month.

This does happen, don't give em ideas to make it regular though. Now there's a reason to do it.

[xPandabear1992x]

laughing my ****ing arse off.

I'm not due anything because i fell just under in ONE period per qualifying group?

october '19 to mar '20 i worked in between 10-30 hours overtime every qualifying period, save for one where i worked 5. Disqualified.
october '20 to mar '21 i worked in between 20-40 hours overtime every qualifying period, save for one where i worked 6. Disqualified.

have i missed something?

because that's a steaming pile of shite if i get nothing from that.

[thefall101]

Checked mine on the app out of interest-i have an ET claim in.
It just states no data available, so they probably haven't bothered calculating the ones with live claims.
The app does say a few reasons why there is no data showing however, and this reason isn't one of them.

Did you not withdraw the claim? If so, you should receive it 22nd Oct, if I'm correct.

[rambo1]

Absolutely digusted in this 'deal' the cwu have sorted for us. Between 15-25hrs each month for two of the four periods BUT because of one month having 2wks holiday and four days sick (genuine sick), I miss out on that six month period. Another , again 2weeks AL and 5hr 35min on other two quiet weeks and I again miss out on the full six months which I did 15-26hrs a month. Surely there should be a 'pass' month like the December one for such circumstances? Anyone who does loads of overtime and has 3weeks leave in one month better do loads on the other week. So you get penalised for having 2 weeks AL on the same month. Best split it in future end month/beginning of next.
So now we know why they were saying, just take the packets and deliver every other day through covid.
Anyone else fuming with this bogus 'deal'. ??

[rambo1]

what is the qualifying criteria? cos i got sweet f.a. on mine.

8 hours overtime a month

I do an ave of about 5-6hrs/wk probably 3-5 in summer, 7-12 in winter , got £301! That's an average of 3and a bit hrs/wk for the 8 wks. How the hell did they work that out??? Anyone else feel they're short changed here? It was for the full 2yrsx4 weeks wasn't it?

Just seen the breakdown on the app. There's going to be A LOT of pissed off people expecting what it says on the tin, because this deal sucks.

[rambo1]

laughing my ****ing arse off.

I'm not due anything because i fell just under in ONE period per qualifying group?

october '19 to mar '20 i worked in between 10-30 hours overtime every qualifying period, save for one where i worked 5. Disqualified.
october '20 to mar '21 i worked in between 20-40 hours overtime every qualifying period, save for one where i worked 6. Disqualified.

have i missed something?

because that's a steaming pile of shite if i get nothing from that.

Yep, I'm half way to being like you. It sucks. How can actually taking annual leave stop you from getting paid average overtime for..... annual leave??? Explain this one CWU!!

[Dexydog]

Checked mine on the app out of interest-i have an ET claim in.
It just states no data available, so they probably haven't bothered calculating the ones with live claims.
The app does say a few reasons why there is no data showing however, and this reason isn't one of them.

Did you not withdraw the claim? If so, you should receive it 22nd Oct, if I'm correct.

My claim is live, and is having a preliminary hearing this month in court.

[rambo1]

Just to clarify . Have you got to do 8 hrs per month .For how many months.
Ive checked app and no payment. Betwwen April 2020 to March 2021 ,i did 8 +hrs ot everymonth apart from Jan (winter leave).Have i got date periods wrong. Cause the amount of tax credits ive lost this yr due to working through covid it does not add up

If you didn't do 8hrs in January you get nothing for that 6 month period, even if you did 100hrs a month for the other five. Write a thank you letter to uncle Terry.

[Acca Dacca]

Just to clarify . Have you got to do 8 hrs per month .For how many months.
Ive checked app and no payment. Betwwen April 2020 to March 2021 ,i did 8 +hrs ot everymonth apart from Jan (winter leave).Have i got date periods wrong. Cause the amount of tax credits ive lost this yr due to working through covid it does not add up

If you didn't do 8hrs in January you get nothing for that 6 month period, even if you did 100hrs a month for the other five. Write a thank you letter to uncle Terry.

Thats absolutely ridiculous, if true

[HTPostman]

It’s an awful deal, but those who’ve missed out need to do something now - saying the criteria should be XYZ doesn’t change a thing. I can guarantee at no point will RM turn round and say ‘you know what, it is unfair, let’s change it so more of you meet the requirements.’

Get your ET claim in now.

[rambo1]

It’s an awful deal, but those who’ve missed out need to do something now - saying the criteria should be XYZ doesn’t change a thing. I can guarantee at no point will RM turn round and say ‘you know what, it is unfair, let’s change it so more of you meet the requirements.’

Get your ET claim in now.

I don't understand how they can apply rules retrospectively. Rules we knew nothing of at the time, are now being applied to the detriment of many hard working posties who perform regular overtime, only to be denied their rightful payments because they were on holiday or sick for ONE month or even three weeks in a four week period.
They probably went off sick because they do so much bloomin docket for the company. Another shining example of how much Royal Mail and the Cwu thinks of it's workers.

[Dexydog]

It’s an awful deal, but those who’ve missed out need to do something now - saying the criteria should be XYZ doesn’t change a thing. I can guarantee at no point will RM turn round and say ‘you know what, it is unfair, let’s change it so more of you meet the requirements.’

Get your ET claim in now.
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So true, well said.
Tbh I'm sick of reading about people moaning already.
This could be seen coming by anyone who bothered to read the agreement.