Overtime rates

[aled34]

Been struggling lately with workload and it just occurred to me how piss-poor the Royal Mail overtime rates are. Basic pay=£12.38 / hour. Overtime= £12.16/hour(less than basic)! Surely like most other firms, time and a third or even half should be paid. Was this another ‘deal of the century’ by the cwu all those years ago!!

[turnyitb]

Yep awful rates but as most usually are ghosting their OT nobody complains.
Soon when we all start clocking in and out at our start and finish time and OT cannot be started until your regular hours are finished people will start realising this and will be doing less and less OT for such a poor rate.
hopefully then the RM and the CWU might review them if they want most offices to clear!

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

Given those now doing 8+ hours a month overtime for a six month block get overtime bonuses in their holiday pay, thanks to another "deal of the century," there's a good case for infrequent overtime claimers to negioate double pay for overtime to get the same pay as the bandits.

[Grumpyoldmailman]

Soon when we all start clocking in and out at our start and finish time and OT cannot be started until your regular hours are finished people will start realising this and will be doing less and less OT for such a poor rate.
hopefully then the RM and the CWU might review them if they want most offices to clear!

The rate will just be agreed with a manager before doing it, like it is now. Clocking in/out won’t change anything if they want the work doing.

[turnyitb]

exactly what im saying but the difference will be they wont be able to start it until their finish time

[Grumpyoldmailman]

exactly what im saying but the difference will be they wont be able to start it until their finish time

What difference will it make? if a manager says he will pay 2 hours for something and it gets done in duty time they will still have to pay the 2 hours.

[sicknote25]

Basic pay=£12.38 / hour. Overtime= £12.16/hour(less than basic)!

Is this the overtime rate after 38 hrs? If so then it is less as there is no Delivery Supplement included, so yes BASIC pay. Delivery Supplement is only paid upto 38hrs (hence the OT rate is higher until you get to 38).

[weedkiller]

Don't understand that. And full week is 37 hrs not 38. I am on 24 hour contract so my Delivery Supplement is £26.61 /37 x24 which comes to £17.26. Stays at that amount every week no matter how much overtime I do. Have to say it really galls me that I do a full weeks D2D every week and only get 2/3 of the supplement.

[Blaine]

Don't understand that. And full week is 37 hrs not 38. I am on 24 hour contract so my Delivery Supplement is £26.61 /37 x24 which comes to £17.26. Stays at that amount every week no matter how much overtime I do. Have to say it really galls me that I do a full weeks D2D every week and only get 2/3 of the supplement.

Delivery Supplement is for working in delivery, it's nothing to do with D2Ds. It's also payable up to 38 hours regardless whether you're part time or not, so you lose nothing compared to a full timer if you're doing overtime (it shows in SSPR on pay slip). Overtime rate drops after 48 hours only, and I was told by the CWU it's to dissuade you from doing too many hours, which I don't actually agree with, hence I personally always charge time and a half or 1 hour 30 minimum per loop to make sure I get a bit extra and never get less than basic pay. At the end of the day, if they don't want to pay that, they can always refuse, no skin off my back, but the offer is there.

[wallan]

Don't understand that. And full week is 37 hrs not 38. I am on 24 hour contract so my Delivery Supplement is £26.61 /37 x24 which comes to £17.26. Stays at that amount every week no matter how much overtime I do. Have to say it really galls me that I do a full weeks D2D every week and only get 2/3 of the supplement.

Delivery Supplement is for working in delivery, it's nothing to do with D2Ds. It's also payable up to 38 hours regardless whether you're part time or not, so you lose nothing compared to a full timer if you're doing overtime (it shows in SSPR on pay slip). Overtime rate drops after 48 hours only, and I was told by the CWU it's to dissuade you from doing too many hours, which I don't actually agree with, hence I personally always charge time and a half or 1 hour 30 minimum per loop to make sure I get a bit extra and never get less than basic pay. At the end of the day, if they don't want to pay that, they can always refuse, no skin off my back, but the offer is there.

The Rep is correct Overtime Rates were Reduced to Dissuade staff from doing exes OT

[SpacePhoenix]

Don't understand that. And full week is 37 hrs not 38. I am on 24 hour contract so my Delivery Supplement is £26.61 /37 x24 which comes to £17.26. Stays at that amount every week no matter how much overtime I do. Have to say it really galls me that I do a full weeks D2D every week and only get 2/3 of the supplement.

Not all offices are yet on the 37hr week

[clashcityrocker]

Don't understand that. And full week is 37 hrs not 38. I am on 24 hour contract so my Delivery Supplement is £26.61 /37 x24 which comes to £17.26. Stays at that amount every week no matter how much overtime I do. Have to say it really galls me that I do a full weeks D2D every week and only get 2/3 of the supplement.

The extra delivery supplement is included in your overtime rate from 24 hours to 37.

[Dexydog]

The year is 2050...
People still think delivery supplement is for d2d.

[Marshamp11]

Don't understand that. And full week is 37 hrs not 38. I am on 24 hour contract so my Delivery Supplement is £26.61 /37 x24 which comes to £17.26. Stays at that amount every week no matter how much overtime I do. Have to say it really galls me that I do a full weeks D2D every week and only get 2/3 of the supplement.

Delivery Supplement is for working in delivery, it's nothing to do with D2Ds. It's also payable up to 38 hours regardless whether you're part time or not, so you lose nothing compared to a full timer if you're doing overtime (it shows in SSPR on pay slip). Overtime rate drops after 48 hours only, and I was told by the CWU it's to dissuade you from doing too many hours, which I don't actually agree with, hence I personally always charge time and a half or 1 hour 30 minimum per loop to make sure I get a bit extra and never get less than basic pay. At the end of the day, if they don't want to pay that, they can always refuse, no skin off my back, but the offer is there.

The Rep is correct Overtime Rates were Reduced to Dissuade staff from doing exes OT

Certainly dissueded me, now I won't do any overtime because the rate is so pi55 poor.

[andyman606]

The overtime rate is about 22%-25% less so if you work your day off say 7 hours you only get paid equivalent to 5:30 hrs after the basic 38/37 so make sure you don't go over that or you are working for free......god bless Casper the ghost!