Structural revision

[Martin Walsh]

The following of the 24 points have been agreed already

1. Table top revision guidelines
2. Structural revision guidelines
3. Processing realignment guidelines
4. Newtwork review guidelines
5. PAD revision guidelines.
6. MEDC guidelines .
7. Productivity recommendations
8. Parcel force guidelines
9. Revenue protection guidelines
10. International guidelines

The following are in discussion

11. Collections
12. Parcel review
13. Sundays
14. Fleet and engineering
15 . Longer term parcel force
16. AHDC roll out
17. RS trial
18. IR review
19. Trial proceed review
20. Culture review
21. New products launch
22. Revenue incentive scheme discussions
23 review of USO discussions
24. Discussions on attendance procedures.

So real progress and more to do !

[Martin Walsh]

Woody your obviously someone who believes in balloons on stick , fantasy’s , I deal in reality hard nose negotiations. You really think that you build into a TM1 variable spend hours , it is unrealistic and simply pie in the sky.

It is so easy for so many posters on her to launch the good fight in aid of the members and yet their own offices are a mess and where do they blame everyone but themselves.

As a local , Branch and Divisional Rep I did not need CWU HQs to fight my battles , it was down to the members in either the office, branch or Division to want to protect or improve their conditions.

[Woody Guthrie]

Woody your obviously someone who believes in balloons on stick , fantasy’s , I deal in reality hard nose negotiations. You really think that you build into a TM1 variable spend hours , it is unrealistic and simply pie in the sky.

Rest day cover is not variable spend Martin.

It is so easy for so many posters on her to launch the good fight in aid of the members and yet their own offices are a mess and where do they blame everyone but themselves.

My office isn't a mess Martin.
I would humbly suggest that an office where full-timers regularly do more than 70 hours a week is a mess.
Do you know any offices like that?

[neil1969]

The following of the 24 points have been agreed already

1. Table top revision guidelines
2. Structural revision guidelines
3. Processing realignment guidelines
4. Newtwork review guidelines
5. PAD revision guidelines.
6. MEDC guidelines .
7. Productivity recommendations
8. Parcel force guidelines
9. Revenue protection guidelines
10. International guidelines

The following are in discussion

11. Collections
12. Parcel review
13. Sundays
14. Fleet and engineering
15 . Longer term parcel force
16. AHDC roll out
17. RS trial
18. IR review
19. Trial proceed review
20. Culture review
21. New products launch
22. Revenue incentive scheme discussions
23 review of USO discussions
24. Discussions on attendance procedures.

So real progress and more to do !

Can we have information about what you have agreed on?

[Martin Walsh]

Neil they have been agreed by the PEC and sent out to the Branch’s and been briefed to Divisional and Area Reps. Additionally the first 100 officers who are due structural revisions have had a joint DOMs and local reps meeting.

So the information is out there !

[Martin Walsh]

Woody I have seen the offices who hit 70 hours on a regular Basis and they are. UK wide.

I think most of it is misleading as well. If you only have 5 people who pick up the majority of the overtime in an office than those 5 people will get close to 70 hours.

Whereas in another you might have 30 people all working 50 hours per week , working far more overtime hours who go under the radar and may seem as an office who is not working lots of overtime.

[General Mannerheim]

Neil they have been agreed by the PEC and sent out to the Branch’s and been briefed to Divisional and Area Reps. Additionally the first 100 officers who are due structural revisions have had a joint DOMs and local reps meeting.

So the information is out there !

We didn't have our meeting. was put off for another week, great start.

[neil1969]

Neil they have been agreed by the PEC and sent out to the Branch’s and been briefed to Divisional and Area Reps. Additionally the first 100 officers who are due structural revisions have had a joint DOMs and local reps meeting.

So the information is out there !

The last time i asked my rep what was going on i was told if you think im waiting for you lot on collections to come in at 3pm you're having a laugh.
So the information isn't out there!!!

[Woody Guthrie]

I think most of it is misleading as well. If you only have 5 people who pick up the majority of the overtime in an office than those 5 people will get close to 70 hours.

Whereas in another you might have 30 people all working 50 hours per week , working far more overtime hours who go under the radar and may seem as an office who is not working lots of overtime.

The 70 hr mark is only one red flag but ultimately an office will be judged on core hours and actual spend so no office that has 30 members regularly working 50 hrs will go under the radar unless it is deliberately understaffing.

deliberate understaffing and the blind eye the union applies to it is another debate for another day.

[Martin Walsh]

Neil if you work on collections then there is obviously going to be real change.

At the moment out of 130 thousand pillar boxes only 6000 have more than 5 items posted in each day. How do they know this a digital counter has been put in each box to record this.

The saving grace at the moment in collections is the 35 thousand pillar boxes detailed for COVID Test boxes.

If it was not for the union and our threat of a campaign Royal Mail would have removed 50 thousand pillar boxes.

It is very easy for some to criticise the CWU without knowing that without the CWU collections jobs would be under real threat !

[neil1969]

Neil if you work on collections then there is obviously going to be real change.

At the moment out of 130 thousand pillar boxes only 6000 have more than 5 items posted in each day. How do they know this a digital counter has been put in each box to record this.

The saving grace at the moment in collections is the 35 thousand pillar boxes detailed for COVID Test boxes.

If it was not for the union and our threat of a campaign Royal Mail would have removed 50 thousand pillar boxes.

It is very easy for some to criticise the CWU without knowing that without the CWU collections jobs would be under real threat !

Thanks Martin,
Im so grateful to be picking up covid test boxes during a pandemic.
What would you class as a real threat?

[Martin Walsh]

Woody the flag is 70 overtime hours in line with the working time directive under the way forward agreement.

All other overtime will simply be recorded under variable spend as that is what The sub headings would be under WIPWH. Of course managers and reps will know the appetite of the office for overtime or otherwise.

However the fact is the same , an office cannot be Judged on a small number of individuals working all the overtime hours compared to other offices who may have a bigger number or overtime volunteers and can be only work 50 hours overtime.

[Martin Walsh]

Neil nothing to do with gratefulness but the government contract has protected 35 thousand boxes due to priority boxes.

They would be under threat because sadly people are no longer posting in those boxes.

Of course let’s hope we get through the Covid pandemic but was giving you the facts , up to you whether you believe them.

[neil1969]

Neil nothing to do with gratefulness but the government contract has protected 35 thousand boxes due to priority boxes.

They would be under threat because sadly people are no longer posting in those boxes.

Of course let’s hope we get through the Covid pandemic but was giving you the facts , up to you whether you believe them.

So what is the real threat?
Im going to lose my job.

[Martin Walsh]

The CWU have achieved a no compulsory redundancy agreement so if you want to say in Royal Mail you will be able to.

There will be new opportunities such as consumer collect , new parcel boxes and Sunday parcels etc , and other growth opportunities which will see jobs protected and new jobs created.

Economy Mail which is a real concern to all of us , has been created by Royal Mail to stem letter decline and to try and capture some of the DSA Mail.

Sadly I have been in the job for now 36 years and I don’t think we will see letters return to collections boxes. To cost In a post box has to have at least 45 letters in per day for a collection, during 2020 only 6000 out of 130k had that amount averaged over a week,

Not trying to scare you ! Simply putting the facts to you.