Structural revision

[Martin Walsh]

Large Machine deferral is technically more complex due to the presentation of the plans – therefore, the LMS volume will migrate to CSS machines

•The additional volume processed on CSS and transfer of work from LMS onto the CSS will require a review of the number of CSS machines to match capacity to forecasted volumes by site. This could mean recommissioning mothballed machines and reviewing current weekend concentrations

•Local Distribution runs will need to adhere to the wave pattern outlined above – some collapsing of Wave 2 may have occurred. The aim will be to combine the final manual despatch with the Wave 2 Walksorted. Logistics and machine capacity dependent

•Deferred traffic will be stored in Yorks. Forecast volumes indicate that space implications will be minimal

[Martin Walsh]

Space


Through development of mail sorting technology we plan to re-profile the delivery of the new DSA Mailmark Economy product within service specification for each delivery point onto days when they are receiving other mail that is due for delivery

•This is effectively introducing a technically enabled warm calling approach to ensure letters are delivered to specification (the project to introduce the new product and it’s processes is internally known as Delivery to Specification)

•The technology will consolidate more items onto a call, maximising the cost-effectiveness of a visit up the garden-path, protecting the viability of the USO and the profit contribution from each visit to the front door

•This will be achieved by building an algorithm onto the CSS process that will defer the letter items if there are no other letters due that day

•The process will also defer other products, e.g. Retail Economy and 2nd Class letters using the same method. We need to defer some other product to meet regulation requirements

[Martin Walsh]

The business has announced a new DSA Mailmark Economy product to the market on 26th June 2020. The product has been available to DSA Customers from January 4th 2021

•The new product provides customers with more choice by offering another stream of affordable products and will help protect letters revenue. It will also provide Royal Mail with an efficiency opportunity

•The new DSA Mailmark Economy product opens the time window for delivery from the current DSA spec of D+2 to D+5 (with day D+1 being the day that the carrier hands over the mail to Royal Mail at the inward mail centre). In practise this means that the new product can be delivered at anytime across the 4 days following receipt into the inward plants

•The product will not have a daily fall to earth target though we anticipate it will be around: 45% of the products letters delivered D+2, 25% D+3, 15% D+4 and the remaining 15% on D+5

•In pre-launch discussions with customers the economy product is proving a popular concept (i.e. lower price, longer delivery window) and they are supportive of an Ofcom consultation. Ofcom will be starting a consultation this month

[Martin Walsh]

Through development of mail sorting technology we plan to re-profile the delivery of the new DSA Mailmark Economy product within service specification for each delivery point onto days when they are receiving other mail that is due for delivery

•This is effectively introducing a technically enabled warm calling approach to ensure letters are delivered to specification (the project to introduce the new product and it’s processes is internally known as Delivery to Specification)

•The technology will consolidate more items onto a call, maximising the cost-effectiveness of a visit up the garden-path, protecting the viability of the USO and the profit contribution from each visit to the front door

•This will be achieved by building an algorithm onto the CSS process that will defer the letter items if there are no other letters due that day

•The process will also defer other products, e.g. Retail Economy and 2nd Class letters using the same method. We need to defer some other product to meet regulation requirements

[General Mannerheim]

•The additional volume processed on CSS and transfer of work from LMS onto the CSS will require a review of the number of CSS machines to match capacity to forecasted volumes by site. This could mean recommissioning mothballed machines and reviewing current weekend concentrations

Really?
We only last year got rid of some people on huge pay offs to leave the business , the css machines where supposed to be gone but are still in our craphole which is on the 100 list for a structural revision and now your telling me that they might have to come back on line, that will go down like a lead balloon in our unit who already think any revision are crap and that Royal Mail waste money.

[postslippete]

•This will be achieved by building an algorithm onto the CSS process that will defer the letter items if there are no other letters due that day

I wonder if Royal Mail are employing the same sort of algorithms that Gavin Williamson used last year to predict A Level grades??

[SpacePhoenix]

Large Machine deferral is technically more complex due to the presentation of the plans – therefore, the LMS volume will migrate to CSS machines

•The additional volume processed on CSS and transfer of work from LMS onto the CSS will require a review of the number of CSS machines to match capacity to forecasted volumes by site. This could mean recommissioning mothballed machines and reviewing current weekend concentrations

•Local Distribution runs will need to adhere to the wave pattern outlined above – some collapsing of Wave 2 may have occurred. The aim will be to combine the final manual despatch with the Wave 2 Walksorted. Logistics and machine capacity dependent

•Deferred traffic will be stored in Yorks. Forecast volumes indicate that space implications will be minimal

Sounds like a cluster f**k in the making. You can't know if a DP has any letters or not until the inward sort plan has been run on the iLSMs/IMPs at night. Wave 2 inward sort plan on iLSMs and IMPs will still be being run when the CSS machines are started. There isn't the time to wait until the inward sort plan has been run on a iLSM/IMP before running the CSS machines, you'd end up basically having to send the whole of wave 2 as manual as there wouldn't be the time to run it before the final dispatches. It also doesn't take into account what manual letters and flats there are. Not every MC has got a FSM.

We don't have the capacity to move any iLSM/IMP work onto the CSS machines. Our local MPU reverted back to being a normal DO years ago. Their CSS machines are long gone and another DO was moved into the space that was taken up by their CSS machines.

Wave 2 mech already goes out with the final manual dispatch

[Woody Guthrie]

The business is ripping deliveries to shreds and the CWU is doing what exactly?

Economy mail clearly undermines the USO, 10 years ago the union would have fought this tooth and nail. Now they're just happy to parrot the company line in return for a seat at the children's table.

It's pathetic.

[worktotime]

Work to time your manager is wrong the Pathway to Change says quite clearly stated

The national guidelines will encourage local solutions, along with a positive approach and options for innovative duty arrangements, without imposing a standard one in six approach.

It also states

The approach to table top or structural revisions in each local office that will allow the efficient implementation of the second hour of the shorter working week; all revisions to be signed off by the local manager and local rep and implemented by no later than the end of October 2021.

So nothing can be imposed and if your office wants an innovative duty structure or maintain one than they can.

In terms of communications each unit will have a start up meeting , the guidelines for the structural means full involvement. A training package. In terms of when does you Rep know , well the guidelines were sent out on Monday and there will be a presentation to SDLs ( Area Managers ) and Divisional Reps next Weds and than they will be similar meetings to each OM and Area Rep level.

With regards to the members the guidelines are out and were part of the other issues still to be agreed !

If you read the guidelines they are there to ensure that the Pathway to Change Agreement is deployed in line with what the members endorsed in a ballot.

If your doing a structural revision there is a process which includes a call rate calculator, as letter traffic has gone down your call rate will naturally go down. Whilst parcels have gone up , if you have 600 delivery points you don’t normally have 600 parcels for each delivery point.

With the economy Mail coming on stream and the impact expected from July that is anticipated to hit call rate by an average of 10%.

All of this information will be based on your local office information.

So if you may well lose walks due to the drop in call rate but you may move some of those walks to a dedicated parcel duty as the commitment is that 85 % of the traffic would remain on the core but your dedicated parcels potentially be removing 15% of your larger parcels from the core which will also have an impact on your attendance calls.


It is fundamentally different from Rico’s plan who wanted the larger parcels to be removed from the majority of delivery offices and give that work to just 300 offices , which would have meant every office losing 15% of their parcels. Instead every office are keeping the larger parcels and being allowed to introduce their own dedicated parcel duties to deliver the larger formated parcels. Some of these parcels won’t be able to fit in the CDVs when we come out of lockdown and eventually return to two in a van .


I suggest you read the guidelines they are very comprehensive for both the structural and table top , happy to answer questions as always , however there is no way you should allow you manager to try and take your attendance pattern as that will be in breach of the agreement.

Remember the SDLs , OPS and DOMs have not seen the guidelines until last Monday , the same as reps and they will need have the agreement explained to them after the joint SDL and Divisional Reps meeting next Wednesday

this just sounds like a car crash and there is stuff still to be agreed , and to be honest and i dont want to be part of it , any evr s being offered ?

[worktotime]

The business is ripping deliveries to shreds and the CWU is doing what exactly?

Economy mail clearly undermines the USO, 10 years ago the union would have fought this tooth and nail. Now they're just happy to parrot the company line in return for a seat at the children's table.

It's pathetic.

your right , and with the agreement of yearly revisions they will use the old mails down to strip even more out of it , the whole agreement is a complete joke as there is still stuff to be agreed so everything will be rosy by October and this agreement will just be used as a money saver for the company to strip dutys every year , well i was against this from day 1 so im afraid on Monday i will be £3.64 better off , total disgrace

[aiden01]

The business is ripping deliveries to shreds and the CWU is doing what exactly?

Economy mail clearly undermines the USO, 10 years ago the union would have fought this tooth and nail. Now they're just happy to parrot the company line in return for a seat at the children's table.

It's pathetic.

your right , and with the agreement of yearly revisions they will use the old mails down to strip even more out of it , the whole agreement is a complete joke as there is still stuff to be agreed so everything will be rosy by October and this agreement will just be used as a money saver for the company to strip dutys every year , well i was against this from day 1 so im afraid on Monday i will be £3.64 better off , total disgrace

You still leaving union thought you had left long ago.

[Martin Walsh]

Woody , work to time , moaning and groaning is so very easy when you have no responsibility and simply can hide from the facts.

I come on here , everyone knows my name is a disguise, I don’t need to come on here , most think I am mad to do so.

However I have always believed that communication is key to building a good Union.

Over the last 10 months this industry has changed significantly, parcels have possibly grown 5 years ahead of previous projections , letters have also accelerated decline and hopefully some of that will slow but the facts are this !

We cannot keep a uso if the 42% of traffic we deliver every days is declining and that the growth in parcels and tracked are not covered by the USO.

Most delivery offices have not done a major revision for over 3 years , the mix of Mail have changed , we have seen almost 2 million more. Delivery points.

Royal Mail have loss in revenue and now a potential boom and we have to ensure we have a revision to ensure each office is in the best place to capture both the growth but be productive enough for the USO to continue either on a 5 day or 6day , remember Belgium is now a 3 day USO .

With all due respect Woody , your lack of knowledge on the structural and WIPWH means tot opinion on revisions is clueless and why do I know that I was involved in the table top and understand the structural revision .

Did you really think we would come out of any negotiations without revisions ?

[SpacePhoenix]

When's the next network revision (and its implementation) due? Whenever it is, it'll have a knock-on affect on MCs, which will have a knock-on affect on DOs

[worktotime]

Woody , work to time , moaning and groaning is so very easy when you have no responsibility and simply can hide from the facts.

I come on here , everyone knows my name is a disguise, I don’t need to come on here , most think I am mad to do so.

However I have always believed that communication is key to building a good Union.

Over the last 10 months this industry has changed significantly, parcels have possibly grown 5 years ahead of previous projections , letters have also accelerated decline and hopefully some of that will slow but the facts are this !

We cannot keep a uso if the 42% of traffic we deliver every days is declining and that the growth in parcels and tracked are not covered by the USO.

Most delivery offices have not done a major revision for over 3 years , the mix of Mail have changed , we have seen almost 2 million more. Delivery points.

Royal Mail have loss in revenue and now a potential boom and we have to ensure we have a revision to ensure each office is in the best place to capture both the growth but be productive enough for the USO to continue either on a 5 day or 6day , remember Belgium is now a 3 day USO .

With all due respect Woody , your lack of knowledge on the structural and WIPWH means tot opinion on revisions is clueless and why do I know that I was involved in the table top and understand the structural revision .

Did you really think we would come out of any negotiations without revisions ?

Martin i arent moaning or hiding from change and no disrespect but i think we all know how the company has changed by the way we are working everyday ,and i can tell you if mail is in decline i havent noticed it as my call rate has seem to have dropped by this % , and yes you do give us more info than the top men do on this agreement , but we all know how these revisions work and they will get what they want at the end of the day by using unrealistic traffic figures , unrealistic call rates ,attendance calls , etc etc as we have been down this road before and the office has been a mess from day 1 , and i think we all know that ofcom will knock the service down to a 5 day week and that is just a matter of time before they do this .

[Harryg7]

If your office has been designated for a structural revision can new duty structures be put in, also what duty structures are actually available?