You can always plan a revision. Remember there is a SWW attached and the equivalent of 2.6% for a part time attached. Clearly the deployment of that revision will have to take into account where we are with COVID
However if an office had a 1% improvement target based on 2019 WIPWH figure they may well have already made that level of improvement so why would you stop them getting a SWW ?
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Shorter week revisions timeline
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Martin Walsh
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steve1873
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Re: Shorter week revisions timeline
I never said I'd stop them attaining the SWW. Basing it on revisions during an unprecedented global event that is having huge impacts on our ways of working is, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster however.
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Hawkey99
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Re: Shorter week revisions timeline
How do any offices accurately get their IWT hours recorded?
Surely the hours are a guesstimate based on the actual TM1 Planned start times (as opposed to the actual start time) up until when the PDAs capture you going out. Most people don't take breaks so how does it differentiate between those who do and dont.
Also unless you record when people go on and off prep and inward sorting you can only have a combined indoor time ?
Any help please ?
Surely the hours are a guesstimate based on the actual TM1 Planned start times (as opposed to the actual start time) up until when the PDAs capture you going out. Most people don't take breaks so how does it differentiate between those who do and dont.
Also unless you record when people go on and off prep and inward sorting you can only have a combined indoor time ?
Any help please ?
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Shorter week revisions timeline
I think using the SWW and the part-time uplift in pay as emotional blackmail is pretty poor especially given the fact that it's an SWW that's more than a year late already.
These structured revisions will be very disruptive and will in most cases remove hours from offices, you're playing with spreadsheets and thinking about your members in your pretty unique part of the country with all the resources of both HQs on your doorstep and Terry on speed dial. We are dealing with a very different reality.
We had all these promises of training and resources the last time there was major change, it all disappeared into smoke the minute the revisions started to go south as did the usual suspects.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Martin Walsh
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Re: Shorter week revisions timeline
How is emotional blackmail ? The members have endorsed an agreement which was a change agreement.
Part of that change was a revision to achieve the hour off the working week.
We have agreed guidelines, we are communicating those guidelines with Branch’s .
Of course the timing has to be right to introduce major revisions but the planning can be achieved and these will be based on reps and DOMs agreeing the revision and working on the planning and agreeing each step.
To make comments about speed dial to HQs simply is cheap as we did not need Headquarters as we were United across London and that togetherness protected the weak and the strong.
I believe that we can do that elsewhere , it is about communication and strategy.
This change agreement is the best way of protecting jobs , terms and conditions moving forward and protecting the USO ! Your alternative seems to be we don’t want change because of the past revisions process and that you feel offices were let down.
All great knock about stuff but the guidelines before you need to be adhered to by ourselves and Royal Mail and if there not being adhered to by Royal Mail than use the framework and say no to the revision.
Part of that change was a revision to achieve the hour off the working week.
We have agreed guidelines, we are communicating those guidelines with Branch’s .
Of course the timing has to be right to introduce major revisions but the planning can be achieved and these will be based on reps and DOMs agreeing the revision and working on the planning and agreeing each step.
To make comments about speed dial to HQs simply is cheap as we did not need Headquarters as we were United across London and that togetherness protected the weak and the strong.
I believe that we can do that elsewhere , it is about communication and strategy.
This change agreement is the best way of protecting jobs , terms and conditions moving forward and protecting the USO ! Your alternative seems to be we don’t want change because of the past revisions process and that you feel offices were let down.
All great knock about stuff but the guidelines before you need to be adhered to by ourselves and Royal Mail and if there not being adhered to by Royal Mail than use the framework and say no to the revision.