Shorter week revisions timeline

[Cucumber]

Martin, what is the criteria used to decide what type of revision a DO gets?

I could be wrong, but the only available data to already have a 400/900 list would be from PDA actuals surely?

[Martin Walsh]

The two revisions are not based on PDA OA.

The structural revision is based on IWT for indoor and the new geo route system for the outdoor.

The table top is based on improving your weight items per work hour productivity.

The guidelines will be published so you will be able to see at some point over the next 2 weeks.

Remember every office will get a structural revision over the next 3 years.

[DGH]

The table top is based on improving your weight items per work hour productivity.

How will it do that?

[SpacePhoenix]

Don't know about other MCs but locally for an hour to be taken off you'll have to put extra duties in otherwise you'll be failing most days

[Mick100]

On the last revision at our office all the deliveries they changed fail on a daily basis and they pay o/t to get them finished, or it keeps getting rolled over

[grchpo]

What's the difference between a table top & structural revision ???

[Cucumber]

The two revisions are not based on PDA OA.

The structural revision is based on IWT for indoor and the new geo route system for the outdoor.

The table top is based on improving your weight items per work hour productivity.

The guidelines will be published so you will be able to see at some point over the next 2 weeks.

Remember every office will get a structural revision over the next 3 years.

Thanks for that.

If I can add a point about indoor productivity and using the IWT.

The IWT is rendered pretty much useless when it isn't managed properly - which is the vast majority of the time.
It's also practically impossible to improve productivity when, for instance, you have shared van duties with 2 x full time staff and others with 2 x part time staff. Is this the type of things that the guidelines will look at?

[worktotime]

i hope it is summat special in this wonderful agreement , and to be honest when they have added all the extra work that deliverys have been given during the years there will be plenty of new deliverys put in offices and if they do will you still get the 1 hour off the week ? , well ours anyway , ie new builds , more scanning , post box collections , increased pkts and parcels , knocking on neighbours , consumer collections , lapsing , oh and the hour off the week , .

[Martin Walsh]

Cucumber there is a new update on IWT and it will be essential when an office is doing a structural revision so it will need to be maintained.

However when an office does a table top you will use the productivity measure which is Weighted items per work hour.

This is based on all your traffic streams being weighted so tracked because it takes longer to process and deliver is given a higher weighting in recognition of this compared to a sequenced letter which is automated and misses IPS. There are 44 different streams of weighting’s.

You than have your work hours which is all the hours you use in your office ie variable spend , TM1 and SA. Weighted traffic divided by Work hours equals your WIPWH productivity.

Letter decline is running at 20% year on year , parcels have been up by circa 40% and tracked at over 100% . This will so be factors in the revision process for example

Wood Green in London has seen their traffic increase by 23% and their work hours only increased by 9% their WIPWH went from 150 to 190 a huge improvement in productivity. There will be numerous other examples and this will come out when the delivery guidelines are released .

[worktotime]

Cucumber there is a new update on IWT and it will be essential when an office is doing a structural revision so it will need to be maintained.

However when an office does a table top you will use the productivity measure which is Weighted items per work hour.

This is based on all your traffic streams being weighted so tracked because it takes longer to process and deliver is given a higher weighting in recognition of this compared to a sequenced letter which is automated and misses IPS. There are 44 different streams of weighting’s.

You than have your work hours which is all the hours you use in your office ie variable spend , TM1 and SA. Weighted traffic divided by Work hours equals your WIPWH productivity.

Letter decline is running at 20% year on year , parcels have been up by circa 40% and tracked at over 100% . This will so be factors in the revision process for example

Wood Green in London has seen their traffic increase by 23% and their work hours only increased by 9% their WIPWH went from 150 to 190 a huge improvement in productivity. There will be numerous other examples and this will come out when the delivery guidelines are released .

[SpacePhoenix]

This is based on all your traffic streams being weighted so tracked because it takes longer to process and deliver is given a higher weighting in recognition of this compared to a sequenced letter which is automated and misses IPS. There are 44 different streams of weighting’s.

Tracked is now split into large and normal (small) for both T24 and T48

[DGH]

there is a new update on IWT and it will be essential when an office is doing a structural revision so it will need to be maintained

But it won't be maintained because when an office is faced with the question: do I deploy staff to do admin on their fittings and fail mail or dump the admin and avoid failure, offices will always choose the latter.

As a one-off event, that wouldn't matter, but it's never one-off.

So what happens when the IWT is working from wildly inaccurate information (that nobody will admit is wildly inaccurate as too many managers would be implicated in that long-term culpability)?

In brief, what will happen when our new revision is as dreadful as our last three revisions have been?

[General Mannerheim]

there is a new update on IWT and it will be essential when an office is doing a structural revision so it will need to be maintained

But it won't be maintained because when an office is faced with the question: do I deploy staff to do admin on their fittings and fail mail or dump the admin and avoid failure, offices will always choose the latter.

As a one-off event, that wouldn't matter, but it's never one-off.

So what happens when the IWT is working from wildly inaccurate information (that nobody will admit is wildly inaccurate as too many managers would be implicated in that long-term culpability)?

In brief, what will happen when our new revision is as dreadful as our last three revisions have been?

They are using figures from the model weeks from 2019 what could possibly go wrong?

[Martin Walsh]

General we using a reference of 2019 but the following Steve

The baseline we agreed to determine the category each office was in was 27-30 2019. So with the growth in traffic since March if Dronfield has absorbed some of that traffic growth they would have increased their productivity and the table top maybe easier for them.

We won’t know for sure until the commercial forecast has been overlaid on their weighted traffic for 27-30 2019 and than any work hours which they need to bring them back to their 27-30 2019 WIPWH figure.

For example Wood Green has seen 23% traffic increase but their work hours have only increased by 9% so their WIPWH has move from 150 in 27-30 2019 to 191 in 27-30 2020.

We could not use a reference point since March 2020 as USO failures are running at circa 2 million per day and lots of offices are not using all their work hours. Hence why we came to choosing the 27-30 2019 and overlaying the commercial forecast and factoring in the work hours to bring each office back to their WIPWH figure of 27-30 2019. This may well mean that when offices get their work hours they may say they have not used this level of work hours as they have absorbed some or all of the traffic growth in which case it will be easier for them to improve productivity.

The benefit of using WIPWH is that we have seen real growth in the heavy weighting traffic and providing an office is absolving an element of this traffic growth than they should see a productivity increase.

[steve1873]

Talk of revisions whilst we are in an ongoing pandemic and have to work differently is utterly idiotic.