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The union leadership is a joke.

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Jb1969
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Re: The union leadership is a joke.

Post by Jb1969 »

After 36 years we have a job!
I presume that’s what those in Victorian Work Houses said!
Slowly but surely our benefits are being ground down.
We won’t have walks of 10-12 miles per day, it will be 12-14.
Knees/Hips will be shot by the time individuals are 40 & then thrown to the dustbin.
Pressure & the bullying will continue, Stage 1/2 will still be mandatory given, even after individuals walking to the car park after finishing work have a heart attack!
Wake up people, the deal is the worst I’ve seen, vote NO
hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

voted no
get our cwu leaders to show us how to do 5-6 hr deliveries without toilet facilities
let them push lwt and htc in british weather for hours
they dont give one f**k about the members its all about themselves
and dont get me started about planners
clashcityrocker
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Re: The union leadership is a joke.

Post by clashcityrocker »

hans solo wrote:
24 Jan 2021, 16:22

and don't get me started about planners
Go on.
What about the planners?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
ted_e_bear
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Re: The union leadership is a joke.

Post by ted_e_bear »

clashcityrocker wrote:
24 Jan 2021, 16:38
hans solo wrote:
24 Jan 2021, 16:22

and don't get me started about planners
Go on.
What about the planners?
The planners are probably ok, it's the office coach payments for doing fuk all, the making up to "full" time but only 35 hrs, just for a start that want sorting.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: The union leadership is a joke.

Post by SpacePhoenix »

hans solo wrote:
24 Jan 2021, 16:22
let them push lwt and htc in british weather for hours
Shouldn't you always use the LWT if it's meant to be used on your walk? If you injure yourself, one of the first questions a manager is bound to ask is "were you using the LWT?" if you weren't, chances are they'll immediately put it down as a blameworthy
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Post by Chelseablue »

Voting no too, everythings too vague . Please dont just think about the small amount of bk pay involved which normally means a yes vote !
hans solo
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Post by hans solo »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
24 Jan 2021, 20:14
hans solo wrote:
24 Jan 2021, 16:22
let them push lwt and htc in british weather for hours
Shouldn't you always use the LWT if it's meant to be used on your walk? If you injure yourself, one of the first questions a manager is bound to ask is "were you using the LWT?" if you weren't, chances are they'll immediately put it down as a blameworthy
they dont add in time for using trolley on duties they expect person using trolley to take same time as one walking without
i use trolley all the time
also in severe weather lwt cannot cope with heavy rain, going in and out of trolley for packets etc causes everything to get soaked , adding more time onto duties as they intend to will make situation worse
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Post by Chelseablue »

When they do force in the changes i hope ppl enjoy the pennies they get , plz dont moan about the job being undoable in the next few years
PatK
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Post by PatK »

Until CWU unionise Angard, things are only going one way.
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

PatK wrote:
28 Jan 2021, 20:44
Until CWU unionise Angard, things are only going one way.
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Pharox
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Post by Pharox »

I know this post is not strictly about the CWU leadership, I do feel it ties in somewhat. Since the agreement was reached with the leadership and Royal Mail, I believe there are 24 issues that are outstanding. I’ve kept an eye out, hoping the issues would be posted. I emailed info@cwu.org which is what you get when you send the CWU a Facebook message, enquiring about these issues. They replied, not with the answer to the issues, but passing the buck to my branch secretary. I emailed him on Tues, got a reply asking for my DO and phone number, which I replied with. But as of yet, today Friday, no reply. Therefore, I have voted ‘No’.
Although the extra money would come in handy. I feel that I can not vote ‘Yes’ on a deal where a number of issues are missing. They may turn out to be simple issues with no impact on our working lives, however they may not! Without the union ‘Communicating’ with its members about these issues, turning a deaf ear on them, it does not look good.
cobrakai
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Post by cobrakai »

Pharox wrote:
29 Jan 2021, 15:35
I know this post is not strictly about the CWU leadership, I do feel it ties in somewhat. Since the agreement was reached with the leadership and Royal Mail, I believe there are 24 issues that are outstanding. I’ve kept an eye out, hoping the issues would be posted. I emailed info@cwu.org which is what you get when you send the CWU a Facebook message, enquiring about these issues. They replied, not with the answer to the issues, but passing the buck to my branch secretary. I emailed him on Tues, got a reply asking for my DO and phone number, which I replied with. But as of yet, today Friday, no reply. Therefore, I have voted ‘No’.
Although the extra money would come in handy. I feel that I can not vote ‘Yes’ on a deal where a number of issues are missing. They may turn out to be simple issues with no impact on our working lives, however they may not! Without the union ‘Communicating’ with its members about these issues, turning a deaf ear on them, it does not look good.
The most worrying part to me is that vast swathes of the membership are unaware that the 24 issues even exist, it’s scary what could be waiting for this companies employees imminently if as expected this is voted in.
tractorboy2
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Post by tractorboy2 »

I have not voted yet , expecting the 24 issues to be posted on this site , as that doesn't look likely to happen , I too will vote NO
Martin Walsh
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Post by Martin Walsh »

The list of further talks are in the agreement

1. Delivery Guidelines for table top revision
2. Delivery guidelines for structural revision
3. processing guidelines
4 collections guidelines
5. Network guidelines
6. Area Distribution guidelines
7 future Delivery Agreement
8.Future Processing Agreement
9. Reviewing the Parcel network
10 Agreeing the staffing levels and ways of working for new parcel hubs.
11. Conclusions of the Productivity working group.
12. Review of Sundays
13. New products and services discussions
14. New incentive scheme for employees
15. Introduction of Dedicated parcel duties
16. Roll out scan in scan out process
17. Resource scheduler trial
18. Review of Fleet
19. Review of parcelforce
20. USO discussions
21. Improving culture in the workplace
22. Review of the IR agreement removing the DRP
23 Guidelines for International / property and facilities
24 , Negotiations on attendance policies.

However the key principles for all of the above and the starting point are contained within the Pathway to Change Agreement
cobrakai
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Re: The union leadership is a joke.

Post by cobrakai »

Martin Walsh wrote:
31 Jan 2021, 18:23
The list of further talks are in the agreement

1. Delivery Guidelines for table top revision
2. Delivery guidelines for structural revision
3. processing guidelines
4 collections guidelines
5. Network guidelines
6. Area Distribution guidelines
7 future Delivery Agreement
8.Future Processing Agreement
9. Reviewing the Parcel network
10 Agreeing the staffing levels and ways of working for new parcel hubs.
11. Conclusions of the Productivity working group.
12. Review of Sundays
13. New products and services discussions
14. New incentive scheme for employees
15. Introduction of Dedicated parcel duties
16. Roll out scan in scan out process
17. Resource scheduler trial
18. Review of Fleet
19. Review of parcelforce
20. USO discussions
21. Improving culture in the workplace
22. Review of the IR agreement removing the DRP
23 Guidelines for International / property and facilities
24 , Negotiations on attendance policies.

However the key principles for all of the above and the starting point are contained within the Pathway to Change Agreement
So literally nothing is agreed... but we are going to get backpay if/when its voted in.

Sold down the river for a few pieces of silver