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An update on the crucial negotiations with Royal Mail Group.

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hans solo
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they should have issued a statement on whats been agreed thus far
or maybe thats the problem
afcdibby
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This is brilliant. Folk finally waking up to how much these guys earn.
toonshola
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afcdibby wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 20:20
This is brilliant. Folk finally waking up to how much these guys earn.
I tried highlighting this on the union Facebook page earlier, my comment was removed and I’m now blocked hahahaha unreal man.
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Cwu reps deserve a extra payment in my opinion

Then you have work place coaches getting money for nothing in my opinion
Vwtouran
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CEO Stuart Simpson has delivered a message regarding our continuing talks with CWU.

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'I know everyone wants us to reach resolution,' said Stuart. 'But it has to be the right deal. A deal that secures and underpins the future of this incredible business.

'It needs to cover three key areas:

The strategy and future direction of Royal Mail
Operational change, and
Pay and job security
'We're not there yet. But I genuinely believe we are close. I really hope we will have an agreement soon.

'It's clear that both sides want an agreement that works for Royal Mail, its people and our wider stakeholders. Over the coming days, we'll continue intensive talks. I hope to be able to give you further information soon.'​
FirstPost
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Vwtouran wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 21:14
CEO Stuart Simpson has delivered a message regarding our continuing talks with CWU.

Press playOpens in a new window for an update.

'I know everyone wants us to reach resolution,' said Stuart. 'But it has to be the right deal. A deal that secures and underpins the future of this incredible business.

'It needs to cover three key areas:

The strategy and future direction of Royal Mail
Operational change, and
Pay and job security
'We're not there yet. But I genuinely believe we are close. I really hope we will have an agreement soon.

'It's clear that both sides want an agreement that works for Royal Mail, its people and our wider stakeholders. Over the coming days, we'll continue intensive talks. I hope to be able to give you further information soon.'​
so on Monday it'll be an update saying 'talks are completed, wait another week for the news' :d'oh! :d'oh!
Zicomurphy
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I never used to hear train drivers criticising Bob Crow for how much he got paid.

The issue is the competence of the person doing the job not how much they are getting paid.

To use an analogy, if the striker of the football team you support is earning 100k a week but scoring you 30 goals a season you probably don’t begrudge him the money. If he’s earning 60k a week and couldn’t hit a cows backside with a banjo you probably think he is stealing a living .

You can form your own opinions if Terry is more Radamel Falcao or Sergio Aguero.
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Disappointing to see that pay, which wasn't part of the dispute so should have been a stand alone issue is now going to be tied in to operational change and the future direction of the business.

Members weren't given the opportunity to vote on the 6% over 3 years pay offer made earlier in the year which was a stand alone deal. I would certainly have voted to accept that deal.

This one, with all sorts of strings attached, must be an absolute corker of a pay offer, to try to persuade members to vote for an otherwise unpalatable deal.
Grumpyoldmailman
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Come on Terry this is dragging on longer than Brexit.
rambo1
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Schiff wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 21:31
Disappointing to see that pay, which wasn't part of the dispute so should have been a stand alone issue is now going to be tied in to operational change and the future direction of the business.

Members weren't given the opportunity to vote on the 6% over 3 years pay offer made earlier in the year which was a stand alone deal. I would certainly have voted to accept that deal.

This one, with all sorts of strings attached, must be an absolute corker of a pay offer, to try to persuade members to vote for an otherwise unpalatable deal.
Weren't there 'strings' attached to the sww couple of years ago......look how that turned out. It's like saying work your backside off and if you work more than 48 hrs, we'll reward you with......less per hr .......oh no hold on, they already do that.
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there still collating the scores on the pdas to give a final figure to the union on how many jobs will have to go that's according to the pdas not the real world though :mad
clashcityrocker
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Do both sides still want to see the backdated pay in our pockets before xmas?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Leftwing11
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This has been going on since July, in over 30 years I’ve never known such a union or such elongated “talks”.
This is simply Pitiful , something seriously is is not right here ! !
rogersh
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Schiff wrote:
04 Dec 2020, 21:31
Disappointing to see that pay, which wasn't part of the dispute so should have been a stand alone issue is now going to be tied in to operational change and the future direction of the business.

Members weren't given the opportunity to vote on the 6% over 3 years pay offer made earlier in the year which was a stand alone deal. I would certainly have voted to accept that deal.

This one, with all sorts of strings attached, must be an absolute corker of a pay offer, to try to persuade members to vote for an otherwise unpalatable deal.
This was Terry Pullingers reaction to the pay offer in February

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 69&t=94287
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Maybe TP and DW want to follow in the foot steps of AJ and be an MP sorry for the abbreviations don't feel like being sued today!