Understand the external threat

[clashcityrocker]

Sir Henry wrote:
Royal Mail want to introduce a new non culpable inefficiency procedure which is aimed at ensure individuals are working at 100BSi wtf does non culpable inefficiency mean and more importantly what happens to those that don't make the grade?

Non culpable inefficiency is a procedure that currently exists whereby if you are just crap at your job RM can look to remove you from their employ.
It is little used (in fact never) because you only have to make a small improvement to be removed from the procedure.

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

If RM want 5 hour delivery spans excluding travelling time and meal relief, while everyone works five day weeks, every part timer is going to need to be on a minimum 29 hour contract... And that's if the duty has been prepped and correctly loaded into the van/HCT before they arrive.

Some HCT duties as a result of safely not van sharing now need ~75mins travelling time per day.

Absolutely no chance of happening.

Plus we have no experience yet of a Covid "Black Friday" going into "Xmas pressure" workload is going to look like compared to previous years, before we even look at how few OPGs are going to voluntarily van share again.

Not to mention "customer collection" is still in its infancy and we have no idea of how much actual time this is going to add to "delivery time" compared to pen-pusher time.

Etc. etc.

[Postie90]

I’ll tell what Royal Mail exactly want.
Early starters ( free time) and runners. That’s their ( Royal Mail’s) 100%+ BSI.
IF YOU DO YOUR JOB PROBABLY, YOU,RE LABELLED A PROBLEM. This results in more pressure and bullying from management.

Having said that, Royal Mail won’t admit it.

[stodgy88]

Not sure if its a nationwide thing,but the 318,s in our office have no caller office opening times ,so they ring up for a redelivery,which have now increased greatly, good luck with that as christmas approaches .

[SSkUNkY]

Most people are having to work extremely hard every single day doing physical backbreaking labour whilst vast swathes of the population sit at home.

Stop trying to use technology to make peoples lives worse.

When was the last time teaching and the military was profitable?

Have all the 2,000 managers been sacked yet?

Get rid of 'The Courier' magazine.

Renationalise it.

[Sugar]

Very valid point by Woody if we aren't prepared to strike we actually do we have in our armoury? We can ask really nicely I guess.

The answer is the one thousands and thousands of OPG's refuse to acknowledge and do....And why you're in this mess with sh!t like this on the horizon.

You do the job by the book exactly as the company say it's to be done and everyone does it not just the usual handful in a DO who usually end up being treated like sh!t by incompetent managers and labelled as trouble makers. You all stick together and don't let managers single out anyone for additional pressure tactics who is doing the job properly.

FFS there could be a 100 OPG's in an office with only 4 managers and you let these clowns divide you and have you bitching and snitching on each other and making your working life miserable when its so easy to turn the tables and stick together as one unit and make their lives an absolute living hell for a change and show the area little Napoleons and other higher ups that the jobs fooked and the workloads unachievable.

Stop burying your heads in your frames and letting the usual people do all speaking at meetings and show the fuc£ wits you're not going to be pushed around and broken anymore.

A week or two of everyone doing it by the book in an office and the backlog would be immense especially in the current circumstances and now is your best chance at bringing the whole shebang to its knees and not a strike vote in sight.

[Martin Walsh]

I have to say I am surprised no one has picked up on the pressure that Royal Mail are under to agree a deal.

No deal with the CWU will mean real pressure on GLS being sold and than as Royal Mail has not made a profit on its own for several years the share price drops and than a take over with the direct aim of breaking up the profitable parts of the company and letting the rest including the USO wither on the vine.

The CWU don’t need a ballot to get a deal Royal Mail need a deal , but it is what change are we willing to agree under any pay or wider agreement.

We know what our red lines are but we also know change is never welcomed but sometimes done for the greater good of the membership remember D2D ? Remember Saturdays becoming a normal day ? Remember absorption , remember sequencing Mail , remember cuts the second delivery , remember Mail centre closures ? Remember the cut to final salary ?

None of those were welcomed changes but necessary moves based on evidence and facts and in exchange for job security and benefits.

So be warned any agreement will come with significant change but not the attack on terms and conditions Royal Mail want.

Finally it does make me laugh I put up what Royal Mail want and you argue with me on there merits , I won’t be agreeing them and I don’t think they will work , but please believe me Royal Mail are deadly serious about them.

[hans solo]

excuse me mr walsh but you do not speak for me or know my red lines
if thats what rm are proposing i am prepared to accept jog on the company can sink f**k it
and i suspect cwu hq only looking after themselves

[taxi4leighton]

So what happened to 4 pillars
And what is your vision for the future
All you are doing is spreading doom and gloom
Fact is your members are I limbo
And have been for last year
No progress since the first ballot

[Woody Guthrie]

No deal with the CWU will mean real pressure on GLS being sold

If the numbers stack up to the shareholders no amount of deals with the CWU will stop GLS being sold off.

Finally it does make me laugh I put up what Royal Mail want

Is it really what they want though?
There isn't a convincing argument that it is, some of it is blatantly overblown and unworkable and would put the business even deeper in the mire.
Royal Mail certainly haven't told anyone other than your esteemed self that that's what they want, if it's a confidentiality issue then surely you've just breached that. What machiavellian games are really afoot Martin?

Either Royal Mail is screwing with the union or the union is screwing with us.

[Martin Walsh]

Woody there is unrest in the shareholders, our members shares don’t stop anything.

The company is expected to announce upward of 500 million loss in November and if they don’t have an agreed change plan than the pressure will really be applied.

In terms of you don’t believe that is on the table , fair enough. No point in me discussing further with you.

[toonshola]

I have to say I am surprised no one has picked up on the pressure that Royal Mail are under to agree a deal.

No deal with the CWU will mean real pressure on GLS being sold and than as Royal Mail has not made a profit on its own for several years the share price drops and than a take over with the direct aim of breaking up the profitable parts of the company and letting the rest including the USO wither on the vine.

The CWU don’t need a ballot to get a deal Royal Mail need a deal , but it is what change are we willing to agree under any pay or wider agreement.

We know what our red lines are but we also know change is never welcomed but sometimes done for the greater good of the membership remember D2D ? Remember Saturdays becoming a normal day ? Remember absorption , remember sequencing Mail , remember cuts the second delivery , remember Mail centre closures ? Remember the cut to final salary ?

None of those were welcomed changes but necessary moves based on evidence and facts and in exchange for job security and benefits.

So be warned any agreement will come with significant change but not the attack on terms and conditions Royal Mail want.

Finally it does make me laugh I put up what Royal Mail want and you argue with me on there merits , I won’t be agreeing them and I don’t think they will work , but please believe me Royal Mail are deadly serious about them.

Your living in fantasy land mate if you think Royal Mail need to make a deal with the CWU. You Pullinger and Ward have been strung along once again and it will be us posties who pay the price. You have said we can’t strike so you have lost any power you might have once had.
There is absolutely nothing stopping Royal Mail telling the CWU to jog on and they can start making the changes they want on their own, and that is what I think they will do. The union blew their chance to have much say last year when they blew the ballot because they were too busy fannying around on Facebook. Please don’t come back and say the establishment or powers that be were at fault for that because it’s not true. It’s about time someone takes some f***ing responsibility for last years ballot cock up and comes out and apologises for it as we are all about to pay for it big time.

[2yearpostie]

Seriously, if im only paid for 5 hours work, how can travel to and from the walk if the 5 hours are meant to first till last letter? Will they be increasing all 25hrs and below contracts?

[Woody Guthrie]

Any deal proposed to the membership should be assessed on its own merits and voted on accordingly.

It should definitely not be voted on based on the fear of something that was never really a sensible or genuine proposal in the first place.

I don't take you as a gullible man Martin, I would hope you reciprocate that respect towards the rest of the membership.

[Martin Walsh]

So what happened to 4 pillars
And what is your vision for the future
All you are doing is spreading doom and gloom
Fact is your members are I limbo
And have been for last year
No progress since the first ballot

I have given this board an update , there was a complaint there was no update.

Now I get accused of doom and gloom.

In terms of the 4 pillars we balloted because the company was not committed to that agreement.

Than COVID came and changed not only Royal Mail but the world.

Parcels have grown and letters have been lost.

There is less automation for parcels and because of the size Royal Mail have to lease premises to store the growth in parcels.

In terms of letters , they are hugely profitable as they are automated.

Royal Mail’s parcel separation plan is a few years away and the change in the USO is at least 2 years away.

So clearly If a company is making 500 million loss and that 70 percent of all costs are employees wages , overtime etc than it does not take much thinking to realise where Royal Mail see the direction they need to take to return to profitability.