Masks for indoor work

[Schiff]

Amazon has made mask wearing compulsory in its fulfilment centres since lockdown started after it had a couple of early outbreaks, exemption requires medical evidence. No mask-no work.

Masks, gloves, sanitiser all available from the kick off. Doubled their cleaning staff and have dedicated touch point cleaners who just go round the whole place constantly cleaning contact surfaces.

They may be s**t to work for but they make us look like a bunch of amateurs.

Spot on.

Here at RM we have the added advantage that we do huge amounts of work outdoors. I'm sure that anyone with a disability meaning that they were unable to wear a mask indoors to protect their colleagues could easily be found 38 hours of outdoor work each week as a reasonable adjustment.

[ripio]

I may just be lucky up until now and have never had a serious illness despite not using medicines or vaccines.

You didn't get vaccinated against anything as a child?

[Caesar]

I may just be lucky up until now and have never had a serious illness despite not using medicines or vaccines.

You didn't get vaccinated against anything as a child?

Not by choice. I can't remember and my parents are no longer here to ask.
I wasn't against vaccines and I chose not to use/ask for prescription drugs many years ago after reading the possible side effects on the instructions of migraine talblets I was prescribed. I was really referring to now.

[Woody Guthrie]

It's a huge leap from the very sensible idea that keeping your body healthy and avoiding unnecessary medical intervention is a sound way of avoiding illness to championing debunked pseudo-science that could put lives at risk.

Watching endless confirmation bias videos on YouTube is not a sound research method.

[postslippete]

This is mental.

The company needs to enforce wearing of face coverings indoors. Now.

It doesn't make us safe. But it does makes us safer. Bloody do it

I agree and the Union should be forcing Royal Mail to ensure its staff are wearing facemasks and if they don't comply they should be ask to work from home or start later. I don't give a monkeys about the science as that's why this thread has gone sideways as usual. Weird how the CWU were keen to stop van sharing but not so keen to ensure that managers are not forcing their staff are wearing masks.

What harm can it f££king do? Am I missing something but if units get a bad case of covid, it can only be from infected workers passing on the virus to other workers. Is that scientific enough for those who are a bit thick? The company policy on masks needs an urgent review because I can see many staff ringing in sick.

[Cucumber]

This is mental.

The company needs to enforce wearing of face coverings indoors. Now.

It doesn't make us safe. But it does makes us safer. Bloody do it

I agree and the Union should be forcing Royal Mail to ensure its staff are wearing facemasks and if they don't comply they should be ask to work from home or start later. I don't give a monkeys about the science as that's why this thread has gone sideways as usual. Weird how the CWU were keen to stop van sharing but not so keen to ensure that managers are not forcing their staff are wearing masks.

What harm can it f££king do? Am I missing something but if units get a bad case of covid, it can only be from infected workers passing on the virus to other workers. Is that scientific enough for those who are a bit thick? The company policy on masks needs an urgent review because I can see many staff ringing in sick.

Other companies would send you home without pay if you didn't have good reason not to wear one.

[whatshappening1]

I went to a office yesterday for the first time, and out of 30 odd people one person had a mask. It puts pressure on you to not were one to not be singled out. The company clearly thinks putting a few signs up and some tape on the ground covers them legally. I seen no social distancing just lots of workers that under the cosh they need to kid themselves on theres no pandemic. With the winter kicking in and cases on the massive rise just a matter of time before posties start dropping like flies

[twiddledumb]

The DOM in my office is worse than Trump, he swans about getting close to people, giving lifts to people in his car to drop of points, never wears a mask and never encourages anyone else to. I was also told by another postie in my office that his wife was waiting for test result, I said what are you doing here then, he said he told the manager and the manager told him to come in and only isolate if the test result was positive. You could not make it up. Anyway same old story, union nowhere to be seen. We want pressure on RM to enforce mask wearing in DO.

[LouBarlow]

Someone needs to tell all these doctors and nurses wearing face masks that they are wasting their time. The shite I read on this forum at times...

[PostmanBitesDog]

Someone needs to tell all these doctors and nurses wearing face masks that they are wasting their time.

I completely agree. But only for the doctors and nurses taking care of Donald Trump at the Walter Reed Medical Center.

[LouBarlow]

Someone needs to tell all these doctors and nurses wearing face masks that they are wasting their time.

I completely agree. But only for the doctors and nurses taking care of Donald Trump at the Walter Reed Medical Center.

[PostmanBitesDog]

Someone needs to tell all these doctors and nurses wearing face masks that they are wasting their time.

I completely agree. But only for the doctors and nurses taking care of Donald Trump at the Walter Reed Medical Center.

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[joewyan]

This is mental.

The company needs to enforce wearing of face coverings indoors. Now.

It doesn't make us safe. But it does makes us safer. Bloody do it

I agree and the Union should be forcing Royal Mail to ensure its staff are wearing facemasks and if they don't comply they should be ask to work from home or start later. I don't give a monkeys about the science as that's why this thread has gone sideways as usual. Weird how the CWU were keen to stop van sharing but not so keen to ensure that managers are not forcing their staff are wearing masks.

What harm can it f££king do? Am I missing something but if units get a bad case of covid, it can only be from infected workers passing on the virus to other workers. Is that scientific enough for those who are a bit thick? The company policy on masks needs an urgent review because I can see many staff ringing in sick.

Considering cases started increasing once face masks were made mandatory in shops they do not help because people think that if they are wearing a mask that they are invincible, they forget about social distancing and hand hygiene because the mask will stop all infection.
This is just my opinion but it should be personal choice in a workplace, in all of these months our huge office has barely had any cases so why start now? If people want to wear them and other PPE then that is their choice but mandatory, I don’t think so.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Considering cases started increasing once face masks were made mandatory in shops they do not help because people think that if they are wearing a mask that they are invincible, they forget about social distancing and hand hygiene because the mask will stop all infection.

This is just my opinion but it should be personal choice in a workplace, in all of these months our huge office has barely had any cases so why start now? If people want to wear them and other PPE then that is their choice but mandatory, I don’t think so.

Then I am afraid those people don't understand why we are asked to wear a mask. It isn't to protect the individual, but to stop the individual passing on the virus if they are pre-symptomatic, or non symptomatic.

As others have pointed out, it's the law so whether you support mandatory wearing of PPE or not is immaterial. Hi Viz vests are mandatory in a vehicle yards, limits on weight for various tasks are mandatory, moving equipment has mandatory limits . In some cases people have died, been sacked, or injured themselves (and others) because they ignored mandatory PPE or H&S instructions.

[Woody Guthrie]

Considering cases started increasing once face masks were made mandatory in shops

Cases started rising as we came out of lockdown, that's why face masks were made mandatory. You're confusing cause and effect.

There aren't more knife crimes because the police wear stab vests, the police wear stab vests because there are more knife crimes.

in all of these months our huge office has barely had any cases so why start now?

Because we're not in lockdown anymore.
Cases aren't created in an office, they're brought in from outside and the more people mix outside the office the higher the danger of bringing it in.

Mandatory PPE is hardly a new thing so if the business decides to go down that route I'm not sure where people are going to go with the "I'm not wearing it" narrative, maybe down the jobcentre but you'll probably have to wear a mask in there.....