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2yearpostie
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Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
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Cedar_Room
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Have you not been forced to go on to permanent lates yet?
“Shorts,in this weather?!”
“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
“What’s she been ordering now?”
“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
“What’s she been ordering now?”
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2yearpostie
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I was threatened with that or use your own car on rm insurance (but no one on here believed me), i use my car now.Cedar_Room wrote:Have you not been forced to go on to permanent lates yet?
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Cedar_Room
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You said you overheard it in a discussion between your DOM2yearpostie wrote:I was threatened with that or use your own car on rm insurance (but no one on here believed me), i use my car now.Cedar_Room wrote:Have you not been forced to go on to permanent lates yet?
& union rep,if I’m not mistaken. You also stated that all PT’s nationwide were to be forced to go on lates
“Shorts,in this weather?!”
“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
“What’s she been ordering now?”
“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
“What’s she been ordering now?”
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greengiant
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Including carrying mail in your own car?2yearpostie wrote:I was threatened with that or use your own car on rm insurance (but no one on here believed me), i use my car now.Cedar_Room wrote:Have you not been forced to go on to permanent lates yet?
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2yearpostie
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nope just me to get to loop start pointsgreengiant wrote:Including carrying mail in your own car?2yearpostie wrote:I was threatened with that or use your own car on rm insurance (but no one on here believed me), i use my car now.Cedar_Room wrote:Have you not been forced to go on to permanent lates yet?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
If the various duties have differing start and finish times, then you should attend at the times required for those duties. But you do not have to work beyond your contracted amount of hours so if you may go over because of the duties allocated to you that week, then you need to alert the manager.
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2yearpostie
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So in theroy mon to weds i could 5 1/2 hours a day (16 1/2 hrs), thurs 8 1/2hrs (takes me to 25hrs) and they would have to give me fri and sat off?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
If the various duties have differing start and finish times, then you should attend at the times required for those duties. But you do not have to work beyond your contracted amount of hours so if you may go over because of the duties allocated to you that week, then you need to alert the manager.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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That's why you need to alert the manager if this situation looks like happening. Let them make the decision on either giving you the day off or reducing your hours during the rest of the week. Of course, if you are willing to do the overtime then when you alert the manager advise them of such, and how much overtime you would expect to receive if you keep to the duty times.2yearpostie wrote:So in theroy mon to weds i could 5 1/2 hours a day (16 1/2 hrs), thurs 8 1/2hrs (takes me to 25hrs) and they would have to give me fri and sat off?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
If the various duties have differing start and finish times, then you should attend at the times required for those duties. But you do not have to work beyond your contracted amount of hours so if you may go over because of the duties allocated to you that week, then you need to alert the manager.
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2yearpostie
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Lets hope the clocking in machine can work this out as well!TrueBlueTerrier wrote:That's why you need to alert the manager if this situation looks like happening. Let them make the decision on either giving you the day off or reducing your hours during the rest of the week. Of course, if you are willing to do the overtime then when you alert the manager advise them of such, and how much overtime you would expect to receive if you keep to the duty times.2yearpostie wrote:So in theroy mon to weds i could 5 1/2 hours a day (16 1/2 hrs), thurs 8 1/2hrs (takes me to 25hrs) and they would have to give me fri and sat off?TrueBlueTerrier wrote:2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
If the various duties have differing start and finish times, then you should attend at the times required for those duties. But you do not have to work beyond your contracted amount of hours so if you may go over because of the duties allocated to you that week, then you need to alert the manager.
So the new machines know who is doing what duty on what day?
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derekm
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Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
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2yearpostie
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my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt monthderekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
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TheoF95
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2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
I don't know how it works in your office but i'm also on a 25 hour contract, my job listing said 9:00-14:00. I work for rurals (SPDO's). I go between 18 different units. I claim the hours of the duty and adjust my start and finish times to match. So for example if i cover a walk in 1 office that is 7:00 - 14:36 i will claim 2:36 OT and start at 7:00 and claim extended if i go over or cut off if you don't want it. I don't think we have an official start time, it all depends on the walk you are covering but it will be different everywhere and i can imagine its different in the big offices.
Is your 5 hours for delivery only? if so then your start time will be the time your DOM tells you to start as long as your hours are between 7 & 3.. maybe.
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2yearpostie
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Well i do get to asked to come in early to do double prep on top of my normal hours, wonder how the machine will work out if im just an 'in early' person or an 'asked to come in early to work' person?TheoF95 wrote:2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.
How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?
I don't know how it works in your office but i'm also on a 25 hour contract, my job listing said 9:00-14:00. I work for rurals (SPDO's). I go between 18 different units. I claim the hours of the duty and adjust my start and finish times to match. So for example if i cover a walk in 1 office that is 7:00 - 14:36 i will claim 2:36 OT and start at 7:00 and claim extended if i go over or cut off if you don't want it. I don't think we have an official start time, it all depends on the walk you are covering but it will be different everywhere and i can imagine its different in the big offices.
Is your 5 hours for delivery only? if so then your start time will be the time your DOM tells you to start as long as your hours are between 7 & 3.. maybe.
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toonshola
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Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.2yearpostie wrote:my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt monthderekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.