Balanced Week

[Dorset Plodder]

Am interested to know if any offices work with this concept. ?

DOMS are always quoting "It's Swings & Roundabouts" but you have to keep pointing out to them that there's no such thing. No Agreement has been made with the CWU with any reference to "Flexible Working" (At the moment), apart from your Hours Flexing, but I expect we'll see something about it in the New Agreement.

Some Offices work a "Longs & Shorts" system, where you have longer Weds & Thurs, and shorter Tues & Sats. TBH I don't like the idea as you have some very long days, especially with this HOT weather.

Basically it's up to your DOM to find you work on those short days, he can't claw back the hour you've finished early the next day when you've worked an hours overtime. I always try and fill up my light days with Royal Mail Work ..... Throw off the majority of your Households Monday Morning (which is now stupidly light) also carry out your Weekly Van Checks (which take longer) and Fill Up with Fuel at the end of your Duty.

[Ren Hoëk]

That's what I mean, no sign of DOM demanding a return to scheduled start times for those who are coming in later so we are every day 4/5 sorters light and then even when we have to lapse everyone follows the pre ordained lapsing plan and does 10/15 minutes. Have tried to argue that the late starters/non sorters should do more but falls on deaf ears every time as they are perceived as "helping out" by coming in later. Ridiculous state of affairs!

I bet its really difficult getting on the late shift then, as it sounds great. Once again I bet the dreaded 'seniority' means all the old timers get first dibs, and the poor newbies have to stick to starting early in the morning, so unfair........

There are a couple of guys who cry about this and I say that meaningfully as it seems to consume them. They had the opportunity and still do to start later but they don't want the later finishes. I am the only person that comes in later as well. Totally forgetting the reason for it. Vulnerable people at home. They never took this pandemic seriously. Even in the thick of it. All too concerned with finishing as early as possible, Rushing around the office, scrambling all over each other. Im not sure what impact of me being missing off the IPS would make to 40 other peoples day. 3 minutes maybe? It's laughable how pathetic and school yard it is. From grown people in their 50s/60s!

Some people need to concentrate on themselves and not what others are doing.

[the beautiful bd south]

I bet its really difficult getting on the late shift then, as it sounds great. Once again I bet the dreaded 'seniority' means all the old timers get first dibs, and the poor newbies have to stick to starting early in the morning, so unfair........[/quote]

We where all newbies once...

[RICARD020191962]

I wouldn't know how easy or difficult it would be to get on the late shift because I've never considered it. What I do know for a fact is that if I did come in late after all the sorting was done I would work 1.5 hours less per day as a fulltime employee than I used to pre Covid. That's how it is at my DO , not saying it's replicated nationwide, it's just how it is up here.

[clashcityrocker]

I wouldn't know how easy or difficult it would be to get on the late shift because I've never considered it. What I do know for a fact is that if I did come in late after all the sorting was done I would work 1.5 hours less per day as a fulltime employee than I used to pre Covid. That's how it is at my DO , not saying it's replicated nationwide, it's just how it is up here.

Unless overtime is being put in to cover these people, aren't they just proving that they don't really have full time jobs.

[CillitBang]

I wouldn't know how easy or difficult it would be to get on the late shift because I've never considered it. What I do know for a fact is that if I did come in late after all the sorting was done I would work 1.5 hours less per day as a fulltime employee than I used to pre Covid. That's how it is at my DO , not saying it's replicated nationwide, it's just how it is up here.

Opposite at my DO. I'm the only one in my DO doing 9:30 starts, just means I'm out on delivery for 7 hrs instead of 4.5 hrs. There's so many jobs failing that there's always something left to do.

[heapsy]

Balancing the week will never happen when, Monday you get done in time. Tuesday you book, Wednesday it's through the roof and you have to cull to get back for collections. It isn't only the DOMs who can't balance the workload. Mail centres need a good looking at and their bonuses should be binned.

[SpacePhoenix]

Mail centres need a good looking at and their bonuses should be binned.

We don't have any control over when a customer posts or how much mail they post. The only mail that gets held is mail that fails when we run out of time. Managers are always monitoring throughputs

[heapsy]

If that's so, then balancing the week is impossible. Even so, bonuses shouldn't be being paid in these times. Delivery get nothing but ear ache when its busy and we are booking.

[mickeymacca]

I bet its really difficult getting on the late shift then, as it sounds great. Once again I bet the dreaded 'seniority' means all the old timers get first dibs, and the poor newbies have to stick to starting early in the morning, so unfair........

We where all newbies once...[/quote]

I see you're in processing so you probably can't appreciate my sarcasm in this post, virtually no-one wants/wanted to do a later start. Even some of those who have legitimate shielding situations prefer/ed to take their chances in the IPS free-for-all, because it gets/got them home in time for Countdown.

[mickeymacca]

I wouldn't know how easy or difficult it would be to get on the late shift because I've never considered it. What I do know for a fact is that if I did come in late after all the sorting was done I would work 1.5 hours less per day as a fulltime employee than I used to pre Covid. That's how it is at my DO , not saying it's replicated nationwide, it's just how it is up here.

Well if that's the case why don't you consider it, if you're making 1.5 hours a day?

The blokes on the afternoons are reducing the number of bodies in the office, helping to make it safer.

Helping to make the single occupancy van usage more viable.

Fighting against possible time constraints placed upon them by having to complete Collections on Del within certain deadlines.

Having to deal with Numpties constantly asking why you are so late today, as you pass them their them one piece of unsolicited advertising material (that they can't act upon because the business is shut at present).

Are probably motivated by wanting to reduce the risk of contaminating family with a potentially life threatening illness.

You'd do well to focus on you're on lot rather than worrying about what others are getting away with, otherwise, as a RM employee you run the risk of adversely affecting your mental health. But if you do want to be a crusader for unfairness there are a lot more worthy campaigns to initiate.

regards

[mickeymacca]

I wouldn't know how easy or difficult it would be to get on the late shift because I've never considered it. What I do know for a fact is that if I did come in late after all the sorting was done I would work 1.5 hours less per day as a fulltime employee than I used to pre Covid. That's how it is at my DO , not saying it's replicated nationwide, it's just how it is up here.

Unless overtime is being put in to cover these people, aren't they just proving that they don't really have full time jobs.

Well no because offices were failing. It's management's failure if they can't resource accordingly if there is no IPS left when a FTer arrives for his later start. Although I think you have to cut them a bit of slack, they were operating in a potentially life threatening situation having to manage some characters whose intransigence over being moved from one frame to another is normally the cause for major histrionics.
I think its fair to say at that time they were just getting by.

regards

[RICARD020191962]

Wow ! Didn't expect that kind of frenzied response Mickeymacca. As I always say on this forum I respect everyone's opinion and perspective even if I don't concur with the claptrap they spout. I did recognize the attempt at sarcasm and chose to ignore it, hopefully you will reciprocate and disregard being patronised by someone who actually knows the scenario being played out in my DO rather than just guessing at how things are in comparison to how you might perceive them to be, regards.