rambo1 wrote:It's gonna happen. The CWU should accept 20000 losses to save 100000 jobs . If they dig their heels in, 120000 jobs will go along with the company.
I fear you are right along with giving the rest of the staff a 35 hour week. Strangely enough it could be a Conservative government that causes an issue for RM as there is no way they want another mass redundancy story in the papers. What ever happens it won’t end and the will be back within 12-18 months for more cuts. A sorry state of affairs.
We are one of the few companies NOT to have had job losses recently. The 2000 managers aside.
We have job losses all the time it's just they are not compulsory job losses.
How many people leave RM each year through retirement or various other reasons whose hours are never replaced fully? I bet it's far more than the 2000 managerial jobs.
How about this for a idea if the company and union want to protect jobs, grow the business and maybe help some staff with issues walking etc. Deliver mail monday to friday with packets, then Saturday sd items and packets then maybe like our competitors deliver sundays I.e grow and employ more people and grow!
Dogbone1510 wrote:How about this for a idea if the company and union want to protect jobs, grow the business and maybe help some staff with issues walking etc. Deliver mail monday to friday with packets, then Saturday sd items and packets then maybe like our competitors deliver sundays I.e grow and employ more people and grow!
Noticed a driver from a LAT Packet / Parcel Delivery Hub delivering in my area yesterday , Sunday
Dogbone1510 wrote:How about this for a idea if the company and union want to protect jobs, grow the business and maybe help some staff with issues walking etc. Deliver mail monday to friday with packets, then Saturday sd items and packets then maybe like our competitors deliver sundays I.e grow and employ more people and grow!
Noticed a driver from a LAT Packet / Parcel Delivery Hub delivering in my area yesterday , Sunday
Dogbone1510 wrote:How about this for a idea if the company and union want to protect jobs, grow the business and maybe help some staff with issues walking etc. Deliver mail monday to friday with packets, then Saturday sd items and packets then maybe like our competitors deliver sundays I.e grow and employ more people and grow!
Noticed a driver from a LAT Packet / Parcel Delivery Hub delivering in my area yesterday , Sunday
Are you sure he wasn’t picking up Covid tests?
The same van delivers to the same address frequently , usually at around 2pm , this was at 11-45 am
"Ideally like to keep the 6 day uso even though decline in letters
"Ambassadors talking about a 3 day uso"
"Ambassadors talking about 20 000 job cuts there wont be (20 000) job cuts.
Anyone else getting vibe for 5 day letter delivery coming soon yet
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
gb93 wrote:Anyone else getting vibe for 5 day letter delivery coming soon yet
Probably would result in attendance changes for night shift mech staff in MCs and in MPUs (that is if any MPUs still exist by then). O the whole mech staff on nights will be Monday night through (and inclusive) Friday night but if deliveries went to 5 day deliveries for letters and flats then the night mech staff would be Sunday night to Thursday night or Monday night to Thursday night with Friday's hours split between the 4 nights
As I have previously said I now personally dont have a problem if we go to a 5 day letter uso providing.
1 No compulsory redundancies
2 35 hour week including a 30 minute meal relief
3 Have a Saturday parcel/special delivery & hopefully Sunday parcel delivery too so enhancing overtime opportunities
4 If its 3 year deal at least 3% pay rise or current inflation rate if above 3% with hour off working week each year
5 Protect the ft/pt ratio so most full time posts made redundant can be filled with part timers moving up
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
"A third of the world's farmland is now useless due to soil degradation, yet we still keep producing mouths to feed. And what's you answer to that? Energy saving lightbulbs?"
gb93 wrote:As I have previously said I now personally dont have a problem if we go to a 5 day letter uso providing.
1 No compulsory redundancies
2 35 hour week including a 30 minute meal relief
3 Have a Saturday parcel/special delivery & hopefully Sunday parcel delivery too so enhancing overtime opportunities
4 If its 3 year deal at least 3% pay rise or current inflation rate if above 3% with hour off working week each year
5 Protect the ft/pt ratio so most full time posts made redundant can be filled with part timers moving up
That’s about the best we can hope for, only point would be it should be a 40 min break. I think it will drag on for abit, boss up at ours says natural turnover of posties is about 1200 a month nationwide so they will happily left them carry on leaving for free for abit yet.
gb93 wrote:"Ideally like to keep the 6 day uso even though decline in letters
"Ambassadors talking about a 3 day uso"
"Ambassadors talking about 20 000 job cuts there wont be (20 000) job cuts.
Anyone else getting vibe for 5 day letter delivery coming soon yet
I think you are right
Terry doesnt have a good poker face
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
gb93 wrote:As I have previously said I now personally dont have a problem if we go to a 5 day letter uso providing.
1 No compulsory redundancies
2 35 hour week including a 30 minute meal relief
3 Have a Saturday parcel/special delivery & hopefully Sunday parcel delivery too so enhancing overtime opportunities
4 If its 3 year deal at least 3% pay rise or current inflation rate if above 3% with hour off working week each year
5 Protect the ft/pt ratio so most full time posts made redundant can be filled with part timers moving up
That’s about the best we can hope for, only point would be it should be a 40 min break. I think it will drag on for abit, boss up at ours says natural turnover of posties is about 1200 a month nationwide so they will happily left them carry on leaving for free for abit yet.
The length of the breaks will depend on the length of the shift, from another thread:
Attendance length............ total breaks..... probable pattern
Less than 2 hours 30 minutes none (a 10 min grace break should be provided if work permits)
2 hours 30 to 3 hours................10 mins.................. 10
3 hours 1 to 3 hours 30..... .......15 mins....................15
3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59..... .......20 mins.................. 20
5 hours to 7 hours................... 30 mins...................30
7 hours 1 to 8 hours 59..... .......40 mins..............40 or 20 + 20
9 hours to 10 hours 59...............50 mins................30 + 20
11 hours to 12 hours 59..... .......60 mins............. 40 + 20 or 30 + 30
13 hours or longer..... ..............70 mins..................40 + 30
On deliveries it would probably be 2 short days (under 7 hours) & 3 longer.
So for sake of 30 min over week I personally wouldnt mind it being just a 30 minute break every day if it greased a decent deal.
This ain't no baseball game, you get only one chance and you blew it.
How can contracted hours be cut when packets are still through the roof, and online shopping keeps growing from strength to strength? How can there be “short days”? Yes, Royal Mail seem to be manipulating the flow of mail and making Mondays lighter, from a letters point of view, but the packets and parcels are still at high levels, which keeps our sorting and delivery times long (not short!). And, although letters may be down in some offices, they’re not down in all offices, plus people’s driveways and laneways are still the same length so you still have to walk/drive the same distance with two letters instead of three or four i.e. delivery times are still the same length with a slight drop in letters, but longer with the increased volume of packets and parcels, plus it takes significantly longer to successfully deliver a parcel than putting letters through a letterbox, and this is not being taken into account by management or the union.
