And with many more deaths to come no doubt.aiden01 wrote:Think someone had there say too soon..PostmanBitesDog wrote:You're being sarcastic, right?Kirkz wrote:What planet are you on? Love Island has killed more people in the UK than the Corona virus.red666bear wrote:With the corona virus still in its infancy and the peak not expected till possibly the summer months. The country has more important things to worry about than the odd 24 hour walkout here or there. The media coverage will be neglible at best.![]()
Love Island deaths: 3
Coronavirus deaths in the UK as of March 14, 2020: 21
BBC News (March 14, 2020): Coronavirus: UK Deaths Double in 24 Hours
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51889957
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Yeah, I just realized that Kirkz posted his comment a couple of weeks ago, but since then the number of deaths in this country has risen quickly. So yes, he did say it too soon.aiden01 wrote:Think someone had there say too soon..PostmanBitesDog wrote:You're being sarcastic, right?Kirkz wrote:What planet are you on? Love Island has killed more people in the UK than the Corona virus.red666bear wrote:With the corona virus still in its infancy and the peak not expected till possibly the summer months. The country has more important things to worry about than the odd 24 hour walkout here or there. The media coverage will be neglible at best.![]()
Love Island deaths: 3
Coronavirus deaths in the UK as of March 14, 2020: 21
BBC News (March 14, 2020): Coronavirus: UK Deaths Double in 24 Hours
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51889957
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The core delivery span of 7am to 7pm was agreed by the Union in the 4 pillars agreement.clashcityrocker wrote:How is Rico making the job impossible?
The delivery span was supposed to be an enabler.
The only reason for having long delivery spans was and still is the union's obsession with maintaining full time jobs.
The writing was on the wall long ago.
The increase of individual delivery spans is not, and hence this WILL make the job harder and more stressful.
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Have to say I agree to a point, the union should do the minimum to keep the industrial action mandate valid until things settle down with the Virus. The public will no doubt be relying on us more than ever if it gets worse.red666bear wrote:With the corona virus still in its infancy and the peak not expected till possibly the summer months. The country has more important things to worry about than the odd 24 hour walkout here or there. The media coverage will be neglible at best.
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Just another viewpoint here, but it could be the perfect opportunity to force RMs hand...are they going to back off?the beautiful bd south wrote:Have to say I agree to a point, the union should do the minimum to keep the industrial action mandate valid until things settle down with the Virus. The public will no doubt be relying on us more than ever if it gets worse.red666bear wrote:With the corona virus still in its infancy and the peak not expected till possibly the summer months. The country has more important things to worry about than the odd 24 hour walkout here or there. The media coverage will be neglible at best.
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Very true but i think rm will push as far as they can with executie action an cwu seem powerless at the minitessdd wrote:Just another viewpoint here, but it could be the perfect opportunity to force RMs hand...are they going to back off?the beautiful bd south wrote:Have to say I agree to a point, the union should do the minimum to keep the industrial action mandate valid until things settle down with the Virus. The public will no doubt be relying on us more than ever if it gets worse.red666bear wrote:With the corona virus still in its infancy and the peak not expected till possibly the summer months. The country has more important things to worry about than the odd 24 hour walkout here or there. The media coverage will be neglible at best.
. :be very very surprised if strike is announced anytime soon.. could be wrong though think we will get absolutely hammered from all quarters if we do strike.
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Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
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What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
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inequality some don't earn enough to pay TAX while others spend millions avoiding it and the government has to spend billions caching up with them if they paid their share don't you think there would be more money for hospitals and like!the beautiful bd south wrote:What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
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No - the use of the word "enabler" comes from the BT 2010 agreement.ssdd wrote:The core delivery span of 7am to 7pm was agreed by the Union in the 4 pillars agreement.clashcityrocker wrote:How is Rico making the job impossible?
The delivery span was supposed to be an enabler.
The only reason for having long delivery spans was and still is the union's obsession with maintaining full time jobs.
The writing was on the wall long ago.
The increase of individual delivery spans is not, and hence this WILL make the job harder and more stressful.
Each office had the choice when doing a revision to decide what worked best for them.
You either maintained a "predominantly" full time workforce and extended the delivery span or you accepted a shorter delivery span and a higher percentage of part time jobs in your unit.
Despite the evidence of the musculo skeletal report the focus of the CWU was in protecting full time employment and hence a longer delivery span. It wasn't and isn't sustainable.
The agreements went from a 75/25 full-time to part-time split to simply being a predominantly full time workforce.
As the letter traffic decreases and the automation increases full time employment becomes harder to sustain.
The CWU never insisted on a delivery span cap because it limits the opportunities for full time employment. (and hence full time subs he adds cynically)
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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That is a political issue Nothing to do with our dispute..k979aaa wrote:inequality some don't earn enough to pay TAX while others spend millions avoiding it and the government has to spend billions caching up with them if they paid their share don't you think there would be more money for hospitals and like!the beautiful bd south wrote:What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
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I think you will find they are linked and those who bank roll the conservatives are the worst offenders!the beautiful bd south wrote:That is a political issue Nothing to do with our dispute..k979aaa wrote:inequality some don't earn enough to pay TAX while others spend millions avoiding it and the government has to spend billions caching up with them if they paid their share don't you think there would be more money for hospitals and like!the beautiful bd south wrote:What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
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Explain to me how winning this dispute will change our Tax system???k979aaa wrote:I think you will find they are linked and those who bank roll the conservatives are the worst offenders!the beautiful bd south wrote:That is a political issue Nothing to do with our dispute..k979aaa wrote:inequality some don't earn enough to pay TAX while others spend millions avoiding it and the government has to spend billions caching up with them if they paid their share don't you think there would be more money for hospitals and like!the beautiful bd south wrote:What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DISPUTE. IT'S POLITICAL
We are not in dispute with the government
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Just a tax dodger who bank rolls the conservative partythe beautiful bd south wrote:Explain to me how winning this dispute will change our Tax system???k979aaa wrote:I think you will find they are linked and those who bank roll the conservatives are the worst offenders!the beautiful bd south wrote:That is a political issue Nothing to do with our dispute..k979aaa wrote:inequality some don't earn enough to pay TAX while others spend millions avoiding it and the government has to spend billions caching up with them if they paid their share don't you think there would be more money for hospitals and like!the beautiful bd south wrote:What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DISPUTE. IT'S POLITICAL
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Ok you win, if we win this dispute the tax system will changek979aaa wrote:Just a tax dodger who bank rolls the conservative partythe beautiful bd south wrote:Explain to me how winning this dispute will change our Tax system???k979aaa wrote:I think you will find they are linked and those who bank roll the conservatives are the worst offenders!the beautiful bd south wrote:That is a political issue Nothing to do with our dispute..k979aaa wrote:inequality some don't earn enough to pay TAX while others spend millions avoiding it and the government has to spend billions caching up with them if they paid their share don't you think there would be more money for hospitals and like!the beautiful bd south wrote:What's tax got to do with OUR dispute?k979aaa wrote:Everyone on here goes about media this is about our terms and conditions it is not a public relations battle if they want a deal we will strike a deal but it must be a deal for all not just those who chose to live out of our nation and not pay tax on that whilst cleaners have to pay more tax than a millionaire it is not a demand but prerequisite this is a solution to his problem of staffing .
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR DISPUTE. IT'S POLITICAL
We are not in dispute with the government
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