This will not be a popular post

[cpsteve]

Has anyone else noticed that on the ballot paper there is a code on the top left corner. this code is duplicated on the front address sheet next to your name. The ballot paper states that if you cut off the code it will be null and void. I thought votes were meant to be secret

Its still secret they have to know its a legit vote same as in any election.

[Dorset Plodder]

Nearly all of our office refused to go to the speech; guy was furious.

Never considered that... Well done ... Certainly made a Statement of Intent. A few of us used to get up and walk out when they used to put on the RMTV Bullshit though.

[ssdd]

Nearly all of our office refused to go to the speech; guy was furious.

Never considered that... Well done ... Certainly made a Statement of Intent. A few of us used to get up and walk out when they used to put on the RMTV Bullshit though.

Thing is, in a WTLL session they're paying you to sit there and listen. Of course we don't want to sit and listen to it, but if you'd rather replace that with real work then go for it...
I think walking out on these 'Ambassadors' is not a good move. It's disrespectful and it will get back to higher management. It would be much better to come up with constructive and clever questions to flummox them.
Yes I know they're being direspectful towards us, but in these instances I think it's better to be the 'bigger man' so to speak.

[Dorset Plodder]

Thing is, in a WTLL session they're paying you to sit there and listen. Of course we don't want to sit and listen to it, but if you'd rather replace that with real work then go for it...
I think walking out on these 'Ambassadors' is not a good move. It's disrespectful and it will get back to higher management. It would be much better to come up with constructive and clever questions to flummox them.
Yes I know they're being direspectful towards us, but in these instances I think it's better to be the 'bigger man' so to speak.

I agree WTLL Is a chance to sit down and have a cuppa. We did listen to the Ambassador's BS, and although we weren't expecting him we did manage to ask a lot of awkward questions. Which he was unable to effectively answer

I know the DOM is budgetted for WTLL EVERY Tuesday .... All to often he will simply say "Nothing for WTLL today but if you just listen in while your sorting .....". This suits the "Runners" as they can get out the door, and it suits the DOM because he saves Time/Money .... (you work out 40 mins per Postie in your DO and that's what he "Saves" everytime he misses a WTLL session).

IMO you should have a WTLL session every week, it's often a good opportunity to clear the air and discuss problems within the DO, even without Management BS VIdeos. Our Part Timers are also not included (because they've come in later and are still throwing off) which I disagree with. They often don't know what's happeneing, and TBH it seems a lot of the Big Office Decisions are made by the FTers ... with their own Agendas.

[Woody Guthrie]

The National agreement on WTLL is that 30 minutes is allocated each week to communicating issues and news that help frontline colleagues to understand their role.

This assists us to do things correctly, facilitates our compliance to regulations and improves our service to customers. WTLLs are part of our core Ops Standards and should be jointly delivered where possible and necessary every week on an
agreed day and time, to ensure all colleagues, full time and part time, have the opportunity to be involved.



A toolkit for managers has been developed providing guidelines and tips for effective communication of WTLLs. This is available on the intranet for the use of all managers and a copy will be made available for local CWU representatives. The toolkit also contains guidelines on the expectations for the inclusion of
part-time colleagues.

The toolkit also outlines a collaborative process to follow in terms of agreeing content for the session
and the most appropriate person to deliver a particular message. This is as follows:

• A discussion at weekly resourcing meetings in terms of when the WTLL Session will be delivered

• Following the issue of the national WTLL brief on a Friday, a discussion is held with the Local Rep at that point in order to discuss who will deliver which part, together with any local issues that warrant inclusion

• Manager and Local Rep have a discussion after the WTLL to look at any action points

• Local CWU Rep can also host the session – either jointly or independently, provided that the content is agreed as above

Why WTLLs are important
We want to make sure these sessions happen each week for every full time and part time colleague and to make them as effective and engaging as possible. The 30 minutes is a significant investment each week and it’s critical that we use this time meaningfully. We encourage everyone to review how WTLLs run in your office and make sure we are making the most of this opportunity for colleagues to talk,
together.

This relaunch of the WTLL will take place in February 2019 and will in the first instance be communicated to senior operational managers and CWU Divisional Representatives, prior to being
widely rolled out and communicated through our respective channels. Following this, Delivery Office Managers and Local CWU Representatives will meet and discuss this new approach, in order to familiarise themselves with what is to be expected moving forward, and to be in a position to deliver WTLL sessions in a more joined-up and positive way.Any issues or queries on this matter should be directed to the relative national parties.

Signed

Mark Baulch CWU Assistant Secretary
Anton Harding RMG National Delivery Director

[norris9]

When this clocking in and out comes in which will 'pay us the correct overtime we are due'....

Does this now mean that we are going to have to take our breaks while at work. Not sure if all depots do the same, but we take part of our break at the end of the day, ie. we go home early.....though not everyone, a small amount will take this break within their working day.

When we claim overtime, if we have not had our break, we add this to the time we have gone over.

So how does this work with this new clock in clock out system.....I assume it won't work, unless the clock out machine asks you if you did or did not take your break.

[Woody Guthrie]

So how does this work

If it costs RM money it won't.
If it saves RM money it will.
Next question....

[Dorset Plodder]

The National agreement on WTLL is that 30 minutes is allocated each week to communicating issues and news that help frontline colleagues to understand their role.

Thanks for that Woody, Very Informative. So it is feasible for the Unit Rep to discuss such things as Prepping Households, Starting before your "Official" Start Times & Claiming the Correct Overtime .... During WTLL sessions?

At present we seem to be under the impression that NO CWU business should be carried out in the DO during work time ( it's probably just a case of us having an easy going Rep, that isn't very Pro-Active). WTLL sessions would be an ideal opportunity to cover such subjects, and get the message across to the workforce... Including Part Timers!

[daveyeff]

Ours is every Tuesday at 8.10.. part timers don't start till 8.50. And have missed it. They aren't bothered though

[Dorset Plodder]

Ours is every Tuesday at 8.10.. part timers don't start till 8.50. And have missed it. They aren't bothered though

Short Term thinking Daveyeff. They should be bothered because 1) They get paid for attending it. 2) Decisions are often made which effect them.

Far too often it seems decisions are made by a few outspoken Old & Bold (often with hidden agendas), and Part Timers suffer. If I was one of those Part Timers I'd want to know what's going on in those WTLL sessions.

[ssdd]

Ours is every Tuesday at 8.10.. part timers don't start till 8.50. And have missed it. They aren't bothered though

Short Term thinking Daveyeff. They should be bothered because 1) They get paid for attending it. 2) Decisions are often made which effect them.

Far too often it seems decisions are made by a few outspoken Old & Bold (often with hidden agendas), and Part Timers suffer. If I was one of those Part Timers I'd want to know what's going on in those WTLL sessions.

They're not getting the choice though, and the office rep isn't enforcing it either...

[postslippete]

Ah yes, WTLL

most posties can't be bothered to listen to them and most managers don't particularly seem to enjoy giving them. Thats why they either last 10-15 minutes or not at all. They are that important that Royal Mail don't include their part-time colleagues in on them because it may mean sacrificing the lapse. Talk about discrimination and I'm not even part-time!!

[norris9]

I am a part timer and have been to meetings and I never see any postie get to decide anything.

though it's usually the longer term disgruntled posties that have something to say. Seems many are bitter they no longer get to job and finish and have been bitter about it ever since van shares started.

Whereas the part timers are generally relatively new starters and have only ever known the job as it is now, so are less disgruntled.

[k979aaa]

I am a part timer and have been to meetings and I never see any postie get to decide anything.

though it's usually the longer term disgruntled posties that have something to say. Seems many are bitter they no longer get to job and finish and have been bitter about it ever since van shares started.

Whereas the part timers are generally relatively new starters and have only ever known the job as it is now, so are less disgruntled.

And in time will repent at their actions as they flock to a job like a plague of locusts and when their nothing left move on that is the ones who will stay!

[Dorset Plodder]

They're not getting the choice though, and the office rep isn't enforcing it either...

That's wrong Mate ... You've seen the National Agreement that Woody posted for us. Perhaps you should get a copy and give one to your Manager, AND another one to your Rep?