strike dates

[Aquarius]

A quick question for those in the know

Is there a limit to how much strike action/days we can take ?

[GRS]

I will never vote for a labour government while Corbyn and his cronies front the labour party the majority of his own MP's want rid of him he will try to drag the country back into the seventies of course this is my opinion and not shared by a lot on this forum.

It is fine to have an opinion even if it is wrong. Voting against a party that wants to nationalise Royal Mail sounds like a sound move on your part.

The nationalisation is a load of hot air. To nationalise the things they say will cost almost £200 billion - which equates to all the income tax paid by UK citizens in a year. Think if you’re gonna vote for Corbyn in the hope that he’ll take RM back into public ownership you may well be disappointed!!

[LouBarlow]

I will never vote for a labour government while Corbyn and his cronies front the labour party the majority of his own MP's want rid of him he will try to drag the country back into the seventies of course this is my opinion and not shared by a lot on this forum.

It is fine to have an opinion even if it is wrong. Voting against a party that wants to nationalise Royal Mail sounds like a sound move on your part.

The nationalisation is a load of hot air. To nationalise the things they say will cost almost £200 billion - which equates to all the income tax paid by UK citizens in a year. Think if you’re gonna vote for Corbyn in the hope that he’ll take RM back into public ownership you may well be disappointed!!

I suggest you research the Labour manifesto in regard tax reform, and how much income that will generate, and also how much money is produced from the industries that would indeed be renationalised. The profits alone would cover the cost of borrowing to carry out Labour's plan. Also check out who the CBI are and who they represent. They represent companies that run the utilities service. Of course they are going to put out scaremongering against nationalisation.

[tinkerdil]

It said clearly on the ballot paper to expect strike action on or around 20th Nov.

[Celgar]

The external mediation is still ongoing as I understand it although the union don't expect anything to happen as a result of it. I don't see Rico Black capitulating and backing down on any of his plans so it's almost definitely going to be a game of chicken. At the very least strike dates will have to be announced which would hopefully bring RM to the table to see reason. Will need to make it multiple days of strike action though.

[daveyeff]

fri/sat one week mon/tues next. do that once or twice near xmas and they will shite their kex.

[GRS]

I will never vote for a labour government while Corbyn and his cronies front the labour party the majority of his own MP's want rid of him he will try to drag the country back into the seventies of course this is my opinion and not shared by a lot on this forum.

It is fine to have an opinion even if it is wrong. Voting against a party that wants to nationalise Royal Mail sounds like a sound move on your part.

The nationalisation is a load of hot air. To nationalise the things they say will cost almost £200 billion - which equates to all the income tax paid by UK citizens in a year. Think if you’re gonna vote for Corbyn in the hope that he’ll take RM back into public ownership you may well be disappointed!!

I suggest you research the Labour manifesto in regard tax reform, and how much income that will generate, and also how much money is produced from the industries that would indeed be renationalised. The profits alone would cover the cost of borrowing to carry out Labour's plan. Also check out who the CBI are and who they represent. They represent companies that run the utilities service. Of course they are going to put out scaremongering against nationalisation.

I would say we’ll see but I doubt we will as Corbyn has virtually no chance of forming a majority government. At best he may be able to cobble together some sort of coalition which will involve many other factions so they will find it very difficult to push through those sort of major policies. Basically Corbyn makes Labour unelectable.

[norris9]

If we strike for multiple days....how will Royal Mail deal with this? Will they be able to get anyone in to at least get some of the post delivered? Obviously some Posties won't strike and will work....

Basically I am just curious to know what those that strike will come into when they come back in after striking. I guess a mountain of post and parcels....how does this get cleared?....

Do Posties strike and then come back in and do a feck tonne of overtime?

[HTPostman]

If we strike for multiple days....how will Royal Mail deal with this? Will they be able to get anyone in to at least get some of the post delivered? Obviously some Posties won't strike and will work....

Basically I am just curious to know what those that strike will come into when they come back in after striking. I guess a mountain of post and parcels....how does this get cleared?....

Do Posties strike and then come back in and do a feck tonne of overtime?

I’m guessing it’s different from office to office but I’ve been told by a few old timers after a strike you just do your hours and management won’t pay any overtime. So if like me you’re on 5 hours a day you come in, prep and take what you can (4 bags perhaps?) then make sure you come back before finish time. Repeat for weeks on end till eventually it’s cleared. Obviously I’m guessing Specials are prioritised. Like I say, probably different in other DOs and they might’ve been pulling my leg.

[leolion855]

If we strike for multiple days....how will Royal Mail deal with this? Will they be able to get anyone in to at least get some of the post delivered? Obviously some Posties won't strike and will work....

Basically I am just curious to know what those that strike will come into when they come back in after striking. I guess a mountain of post and parcels....how does this get cleared?....

Do Posties strike and then come back in and do a feck tonne of overtime?

Specials and tracked first, then packets, then letters, dont work over your hours as they wont pay.

[rambo1]

26 nov ( election day)
whatever black friday falls on
first week of dec.

Elections are not normally held on a Tuesday (26 Nov) and my thoughts are why would CWU jeopardise anything to do
with voting at the election when their aim is to support the election of a Labour Govt? Wouldn't a no holds barred
postal strike play into the hands of those who would oppose a Labour Govt, dredging up reminders of the 'Winter of Discontent'?

Why hold the strike on Black Friday - better off striking the week after when all the stuff is supposed to be delivered surely?

So you're insinuating that the CWU would put it's affiation to the Labour party ahead of it's unon fee paying royal mail employees ( a fair proportion of which are not Labour supporters)? Interesting.

[SpacePhoenix]

If we strike for multiple days....how will Royal Mail deal with this? Will they be able to get anyone in to at least get some of the post delivered? Obviously some Posties won't strike and will work....

Basically I am just curious to know what those that strike will come into when they come back in after striking. I guess a mountain of post and parcels....how does this get cleared?....

Do Posties strike and then come back in and do a feck tonne of overtime?

Specials and tracked first, then packets, then letters, dont work over your hours as they wont pay.

If there ends up being a General Election around the same time will election stuff get priority over everything else?

[lambert246]

I will never vote for a labour government while Corbyn and his cronies front the labour party the majority of his own MP's want rid of him he will try to drag the country back into the seventies of course this is my opinion and not shared by a lot on this forum.

yes, you are entitled to your opinion and I in part agree with you as a Labour goverment under Corbyn could see a run on the pound as in 66 and Labour will be stumped as Wilson was and unable to fulfill his manifesto and 2019 pledges which are a huge shake up.
The 70's were slightly different if you read up on the history (even if you were there as I was) as it was a time of massive political change. Neither Heath nor Wilson/Callahan could stop the vicious cycle of rampant inflation and the unions demanding that wages keep up with it. This is when we had a manufacturing base and northern towns and cities had industry but monetarism was rearing it's head by 78 and the Conservatives saw that they could destroy the unions by selling off all state owned assets and importing much cheaper goods from abroad. This weakened union power and the full intention of monetarism was to destroy the UK's manufacturing base by massive city de-regulation and boom! Lots of people got a lot richer and lots a lot poorer and that fight is still going on.
I suggest you watch Tony Benn's lecture on Neo-Liberalism. 'Tis only 10 minutes long and I wonder if you will still be of the same opinion.

Oh and by the way I lived and worked through the 70's and it was the happiest and most prosperous time of my life!
But re-nationalisation of the mail is an imperative for us in the CWU for a number of reasons I cannot go into but trust me; your job will be less stressful and more secure under Corbyn than Johnson.
I am taking an educated guess here but if Johnson gets a majority then you will be without a job within 2 years.

[Celgar]

If we strike for multiple days....how will Royal Mail deal with this? Will they be able to get anyone in to at least get some of the post delivered? Obviously some Posties won't strike and will work....

Basically I am just curious to know what those that strike will come into when they come back in after striking. I guess a mountain of post and parcels....how does this get cleared?....

Do Posties strike and then come back in and do a feck tonne of overtime?

Specials and tracked first, then packets, then letters, dont work over your hours as they wont pay.

If there ends up being a General Election around the same time will election stuff get priority over everything else?

Regarding Brexit everyone is doing their best to sort it out but the most likely outcome is a three month delay swiftly followed by a general election. So I think we are looking at a general election by the end of November this year. It's a perfect storm which will deliver the maximum amount of pressure on Rico Black. With any luck he will resign!!

[yellowbelly]

26 nov ( election day)
whatever black friday falls on
first week of dec.

Elections are not normally held on a Tuesday (26 Nov) and my thoughts are why would CWU jeopardise anything to do
with voting at the election when their aim is to support the election of a Labour Govt? Wouldn't a no holds barred
postal strike play into the hands of those who would oppose a Labour Govt, dredging up reminders of the 'Winter of Discontent'?

Why hold the strike on Black Friday - better off striking the week after when all the stuff is supposed to be delivered surely?

So you're insinuating that the CWU would put it's affiation to the Labour party ahead of it's unon fee paying royal mail employees ( a fair proportion of which are not Labour supporters)? Interesting.

GS mentions priority (see below), not me.....

Dave Ward, The Voice, Winter 2018

“Our nation,our people, our society need a Labour government, because only this way will we bring our country back
together and deliver the change our members need – and that has to be our priority,” Dave concluded.